Tube integrated amps -- new Value Leaders?


Has anyone compared either the Raven Nighthawk or the most affordable version of Primaluna, Quicksilver, or Rogue Audio integrated amps against the new value leaders from China -- Wilsenton, Cayin, Doge, Muzishare, BoyuuRange, etc.?

Especially Wilsenton and Cayin have been the rage lately thanks primarily to YouTubers like Jay (that young guy, not the slightly out of shape body builder), Thomas & Stereo, Steve Guttenberg and a few more. If you listen to these guys, you start wondering why you should pay twice as much for the Ravens and Primalunas of the world. I wonder how much of it is typical Youtube sensationalism/shilling vs. objective comparisons without ulterior motives. I have never heard any of these brands, nor do I have any affiliation with them. Just curious.

Secondly, there is another brand called Rogers that seems to fly under the radar. It’s also made in the USA, build quality looks fine, and is competitively priced with Raven, Quicksilver, etc. I would love to try one of their amps some day. But they don’t seem to get much love on these forums. I wonder why.

I would like to hear from someone who has compared the new value leaders with the established ones in the tube integrated amp segment.

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@vinylvalet misinformation not disinformation. You must be a Fox News fan to use that term.

You came across like a putz and I really do not care -

At just over $3K the Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III continues to be a high value audiophile tube integrated solution.  

KT120, 100 WPC power that allows more speaker and room flexibility and an out of the box sound that is open, transparent and highly refined with an atmospheric sound stage.  

I bet the Black Ice stuff sounds great. Everything Jolida I’ve ever had sounded really great although the preamp was a bit noisy. Their tube dac is a real cracker for the price. My current 302CRC EL84 integrated sounds wonderful pushing my 145lb Pioneers to about 85-90db then kinda runs out of gas depending on the music. it’s silly good for the $600 I paid for it. It does have about $500 in NOS tubes however that came with it.