The Miller Carbon Story


Had a real nice conversation this morning with Origin Live’s Mark Baker. Mark makes some of the very best turntables on the planet and I was interested to learn more. This was our first conversation and so he was interested in me as well. This reminded me of others who have asked.   

The following story is only superficially about the Miller Carbon. The larger and I would say more important subtext is you can do it too! Please dear reader note the number of times something was tried not knowing whether or not it would work. Like all things in life: The more things you try and the more effort you put into it the better you get at it.


The Miller Carbon Story

My first turntable was a Technics SL-1700 with Stanton 681-EEE. It was 1976. Still have that turntable, anyone can see it, right there on my system page.  https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367. Rack on the right. Bottom shelf.  

Next, after college, came the Listening Room and with it a new turntable. This was way before the internet. All we had was Stereophile On Dead Tree. After reading all the reviews it came down to a VPI package or Basis/Graham. What to do? Cast your mind back, way back, to the primitive past. I faxed my question to Stereophile.  

Michael Fremer called me back!   

The Basis/Graham was my own decision. Fremer didn’t talk me into anything. Quite the opposite. He was a source of much useful information that helped me make up my own mind. So it was that I learned early on from Michael Fremer what it is that a reviewer really is supposed to do: provide the reader with the information they need to make their own informed decision.  

My first high end mod was to remove the cheap rubber power cord from the Basis motor and replace it with an inexpensive power cord. Cheap, but proven to be better than all the freebie PCs and I wanted to find out if it made any difference on a turntable motor.  

It did! Same exact improvements heard on the other components it had been tried on before. How or why, who knows, but I heard it. Other mods followed. Different belt materials were used. Silk, cotton, floss. Each had its own influence on the sound. Fascinating!  

This was all part of the process of investigating turntable performance in order to upgrade. Easy to read about different materials, mass, motors, bearings- but what does it all mean in the real world? This was my way of figuring it out for myself.  

Teres Audio seemed to be the value leader. A complete turntable was too expensive, but the motor could be added to the Basis with only a slight modification for the speed sensor. When this worked out extremely well it gave me the confidence to go for the platter and bearing.  

But what about the plinth? Around this time I was working with DJ Casser and his Black Diamond Racing Shelf. His Shelf material was so much more effective than acrylic, it had to make a better plinth too. After a good deal more planning a BDR Source Shelf was cut into a unique sort of egg shape. Another piece was cut 4” diameter, drilled and tapped to be used as the nut to hold the bearing. Two more pieces about 3 inches in diameter were cut and stacked to make the tone arm mount. Three Round Things with Cones were screwed into the bottom of the plinth. The Miller Carbon was born. http://www.teresaudio.com/fame/40.html



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I am still working on what mglik wrote,
"For me, even an entry level TT rig surpasses digital. Sure the relative SQ is low but the physicality of the vibration of the stylus is an organic sound."
What does that mean? Isn’t this all about perceived SQ? Different ones of us are programmed to search for different qualities that go into our own definitions of SQ. This leads some of us to prefer excellent digital reproduction to excellent vinyl reproduction. There is nothing to argue about there, but SQ is the name of the game, the only reason to even play the game. Aren’t we all listening to music, not the vibration of the stylus in isolation?
The story has been told before but bears repeating. One day back around 1992 the Technics SL1700 bought in 1976 and stored for nearly a decade was dug out of the garage and hooked up. The Stanton 681EEE cantilever was bent, but straightened out pretty good with pliers. This was hooked up, using the crap patch cord hard wired into that table, to the phono stage in a vintage 1974 Kenwood KA-8004.

The Technics had a natural warmth and inviting ease the Cal Audio Labs CDP couldn’t touch. When the wife came home she asked what sounds so good. She couldn’t see and had no way of knowing it was a record. Assumed it was CD. When she saw what was going on she was shocked. How can it sound so much better, she wondered?

Year or so later listening to Jennifer Warnes on Basis/Graham/Glider/PH3SE she said in awe, it is so quiet! This was surprising since everyone always assumes digital is the quiet one. Then she explained, the noise with vinyl is ticks and pops, but between the ticks and pops is music. The CD has no ticks and pops, the whole thing is noise. There is no music.

Some audiophiles just need to try and get their minds around this. Yes indeed there are an unbelievably long list of sonic attributes one can listen for and hear. Among those are ones that some of us hear as noise, while others pretend the same noise is music.

Digital is noise. Analog is music. If my wife can understand, why can’t audiophiles?
Dear @millercarbon : ""  Digital is noise. Analog is music. If ..., why can’t audiophiles? ""

Fortunatelly only a subjective opinion with no true and real foundation/facts that can prove in any way that " ridiculous " ( for say the least. ) statement and remember that even that you read in more than one Agon thread posts the explanation that your ears has an ADC for the " brain " can comunicates what we are perceiving through the ears you still do don't understand it.

R.
News flash rauliruegas, it is all subjective opinion with no true real foundation/facts that prove anything. You may think otherwise but guess what? That is just your opinion without any true real foundation/facts that can prove it in any way. You can measure, but your measurements are only valuable to you, and only because you have faith in them. 

There is nothing fortunate, or unfortunate, about any of this. It is what it is. 
So now that we have the Miller Carbon story, how about we get a report on that Blackhawk.

Oz