Another Analog v. Digital Thread? Not Really


I’ll try to keep this as short as possible. The premise is this: If the highest compliment that can be given to digital is that it sounds analog, why bother with digital? I would never have posted this question, but the other week something happened. After owning my Oppo 205 for about a year and a half, I decided to sell it given the fact I wasn’t that crazy about it and the selling prices were quite good, although I posted mine for significantly less than many others are asking. BTW - In the last month I owned the Oppo, I found it tremendously improved by placing a Vibrapod 3 under each foot.

So a nice young man comes by for an audition and he likes the Oppo very much and purchases it. He is into 4k and all that stuff, but also wants some better audio quality. So that’s that.

Before he leaves, he asks to hear a vinyl record played on my Basis turntable. It’s a nice table - 2001 with Vector arm and Transfiguration Orpheus. I would rate it as the low end of the high end. Well the guy’s jaw just dropped. After sitting for an hour listening to the Oppo, he says that everything is so much more "alive" was the word he used and he couldn’t get his mind around the fact that he was listening to the exact same system with everything the same except the source.

I was considering replacing the Oppo with something like a Cambridge transport and Orchid dac because I have to play my CDs, right? But then I starting thinking why I had to play CDs anymore at all. It’s not so crazy when you think about it. Many of us gave up vinyl when CDs started getting decent, so what’s so strange about going back in the other direction?

So I asked myself - if analog is so much better, why would I even bother listening to CDs anymore?
Convenience? Well, sure, but I don’t really consider putting on a record very inconvenient, so that’s not really it.
Many titles on CD that are not on vinyl? I think that argument may be largely dissipated nowdays. It seems that virtually anything I would remotely want to listen to is available on vinyl, either new or used. You have thousands of CDs? OK, but if they don’t sound as good as a record, why would you want to listen to them just because you have them. I know it seems like a waste, but it happens sometimes.

Let me just finish with this, so there’s no confusion. If you have some insane high-end digital rig that you believe outdoes analog, this is not directed to you. But, for anyone who believes the best compliment you can give to digital is that it sounds analog, why bother? Also, to you streamers out there, the freedom from having a large quantity of physical media in your home is definitely a good argument. We all collect too much stuff and it’s nice to get rid of some.

Hopefully, this will be taken in the spirit it’s given, but I doubt it.
Merry Christmas, really.
chayro
Although there is much discussion on this subject I enjoy both sources although I agree vinyl is special and may be closer to the music.   The best thing I can say is that while listening, regardless of source, is how much I love the music.
Just to attempt to be perfectly clear, which is not easy - this was just meant to be a question I asked myself before I knee-jerked into spending a few thousand to replace my digital setup. I never contemplated the idea of giving up on CDs until this incident, in which this young man’s reaction to hearing a decent vinyl setup, probably for the first time, reminded me of how much better my LPs sounded. 
Obviously, the choice is individual.
I find there is a price threshold around $5K that is required to get analog to sound notably better than digital.  I've never heard a $500 analog rig that sounds better than a $500 Node2.  From my perspective it takes about a $2K table, $2K phono stage, and $1K cart to start making meaningful improvements over digital.  And above $5K the separation even becomes more profound even against $5K digital front ends.
Chayro,

I have a similar vinyl setup--Basis Debut (with vacuum clamp), Basis power supply, Vector arm and Orpheus Transfiguration L cartridge.  For a digital setup, I have a Naim ND 555 streamer with Uniti Core ripper/hard drive.  I think both have their strengths and weaknesses when it come to the sound, and quality is mostly dependent on the particular recordings.  With most material originally issued on LP, the original LP sounds better than the digital reissue.  But, this is not always the case.  Particularly with some classical reissues from labels with poor sound in the original issue (e.g., 1970's DG classical recordings), the digital reissue sounds better.

I tend to like classical on digital because of noise issues with records.  Given the extreme dynamic range of classical music, ticks and pops are much more annoying which gives digital the edge.  On top of that, there is a LOT of classical music that was never issued on vinyl.  Of my 3,000 or so classical CDs, about 50% was never issued on vinyl.  Current recordings of jazz are also hard to find on vinyl.

I need both a vinyl setup and a digital one and I think both can deliver great sound; as to which is "better," this is more an academic interest rather than something that should affect practical decisions.