but please dont mistake these type of designs as accurate. For me a speaker should as much as possible reproduce what they are handed and this is not what speakers like Harbeths or Spendors for that matter actually accomplish.I agree that personal preference is important, but I'm puzzled by your assertions here. Harbeths measure quite well. Subjectively, I'd say I've never heard string instruments and voice (sounds for which I have frequent live reference) as accurately reproduced as on a Harbeth. What, specifically, is inaccurate, and to which model do you refer?
Tone, Tone, Tone !
I was reminded again today, as I often am, about my priorities for any speaker that I will own.
I was reminded by listening to a pair of $20,000 speakers, almost full range. They did imaging. They did dynamics.They did detail.
But I sat there unmoved.
Came home and played a number of the same tracks on a pair of speakers I currently have set up in my main system - a tiny lil’ Chihuahua-sized pair of Spendor S 3/5s.
And I was in heaven.
I just couldn’t tear myself away from listening.
Why?
Tone.
The Spendors satisfy my ears (MY ears!) in reproducing music with a gorgeous, organic tone that sounds so "right.". It’s like a tonal massage directly o my auditory system. Strings are silky and illuminated, saxes so warm and reedy, snares have that papery "pop," cymbals that brassy overtone, acoustic guitars have that just-right sparkle and warmth. Voices sound fleshy and human.
In no way do I mean to say the Spendors are objectively "correct" or that anyone else should, or would, share the opinion I had between those two speakers. I’m just saying it’s often experiences like this that re-enforce how deeply important "the right tone/timbral quality" is for me. It’s job one that any speaker has to pass. I’ll listen to music on any speaker as background. But to get me to sit down and listen...gotta have that seductive tone.
Of course that’s only one characteristic I value. Others near the top of the list is "palpability/density," texture, dynamics.
But I’d take those teeny little Spendors over those big expensive speakers every day of the week, due to my own priorities.
Which brings me to throwing out the question to others: What are YOUR priorities in a speaker, especially if you had to pick the one that makes-or-brakes your desire to own the speaker?
Do you have any modest "giant killers" that at least to your way of thinking satisfy you much more than any number of really expensive speakers?
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A perfect example for me would be Harbeth. If this is what you like then more power to you, but please dont mistake these type of designs as accurate. Bad example, I think. At least for certain models. The SuperHL5plus I owned was beautifully neutral-sounding. JA from Stereophile in measuring said it measured "superbly even" aside from a lively cabinet it measured "beyond reproach." Stereonet sent it for extensive measurements and the result was what they deemed a combination of frequency extension and linearity that was to their memory "unprecedented." Perhaps you are thinking of other Harbeth models? (Though I still find Harbeth to get tone "right" in a way that escapes many other speakers). Anyway, not gonna say more on that as that's not the reason for this thread. Anyone can prefer what he prefers of course. |
What are YOUR priorities in a speaker ...?Hi Prof, In my case I agree wholeheartedly that tonality and timbre are priority number one when it comes to selecting a speaker. What can be confounding, though, is that perceived tonality and timbre are dependent on a composite of many factors. And consequently I put it a little differently in the following thread, which addressed a similar question some years ago: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/which-attributes-do-you-value-most The OP in that thread, member Bryoncunningham, raised the following question: Here is a list of attributes commonly valued by audiophiles, in no particular order: My answer in that thread: 1)Harmonic accuracy. Best regards, -- Al |
@prof Right on!! Too many people these days are being lured, one way or another, to opting for speakers that may be super accurate (debatable) but which aren't pleasant to listen to. Timbral accuracy is all about getting that unique mix of overtones right, and so ensuring that a viola doesn't sound like a violin. Tone may be a synonym, or it may be more a question of the overall tonal balance/voicing of the speaker, tilted this way or that. |
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