$20K to spend on speakers…. . wait! There’s a catch!


Greetings,

Perfect sense says buy stuff only after you have heard it. Only after an in home audition.

Sometimes we are forced to wing it.

Admit it, best guess trigger pulling happens a bunch because not everything is everywhere.

For some unknown reasons we seem to feel we know what we want or need in spite of never having auditioned it.

Here are a couple scenarios based on a “this thing should work’, “shot in the semi dark” buying practices.

Premise: You have $20K and it MUST be spent entirely on loudspeakers.

Here are the options:
1. The used speakers option.
You have NOT heard them ever. At all. Nada.
The deal here is you’r egetting them for about 50% off retail in quite good esthetic (8/10) condition, excellent working orde according to the seller, and about three - four years old and landed or shipped.

The seller has good feedback. No negatives.

All of the speakers numbers are amenable to your existing power plants. They should do well in your room.

2. brandy new speaker option.

The brand new units you’re paying $20K for include a 25% discount from MSRP and sold by a brick & mortar dealership.

You did hear the brand new ones, but only with modest SS gear and nothing on the level of your own equipment which is tubes, or vice versa for sake of this argument.

These come with warranty. ..and in your color preference.

Lastly, neither of these two sets of speakers are what could be called very popular, loudspeakers. Meaning they aren’t littering the pages of the speaker for sale pages with any regularity.


The carrier arrives. The boxes are fully in tact. No issues at all. Still, there’s a nagging thought. Did I do the right thing?

Shouldn’t I have bought used speakers and obtained still more value given just a bit older speakers sell for much less than MSRP.

Or, I bet I should have bought the new speakers and put up with another long run in.

Man! I hope I did not messs this up!!


What is your choice and why?

Thanks for the ideas and insights..

blindjim
He doesn’t want panels and he won’t like Sonus.
Here is a pair of speakers for audiophiles on a budget with interest in tube amplification. Add Allnic or VAC electronics with right cables and be happy.
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-world-class-beautiful-condition-2017-11-02-speakers
Well, under these extremely narrow set of variables, I'd have to say go with speakers that rarely offend anyone and that get consistently positive reviews.  Agree with Shadorne that if you love a particular house sound it makes a whole lotta sense to just move up the line.  That aside and in that price range, the likes of Joseph Audio, ProAc, and Usher seem to be able to shoot right down the middle of the fairway and never hit the rough.

I would give Vu at Deja Vu Audio the $20K and ask him to build me a pair of custom horn speakers with vintage drivers.
@inna > I think, you are leading yourself into a permanent trap.   they are there and you are here - no connection.

Blindjim > you may well be right. I appreciate it. Thanks.
However, this is a hypothetical scenario. A ‘what would you do’ sort of poll.

Its no easy task to get the speakers you desire into your house using your gear, to audition them util they are well run in and then, make a decision.

There are way too many variables and obstacles on that road. Often, the Road Closed signs are put up making it impossible.

I get it better that we will tend to follow our instincts aided with the input from others and wind up making as good a guess as one can.

The issue, is the amount of money, more than anything. Its not a thing if the speakers are $200. $2000. Maybe $5000.

$20K is a chunk that gets people’s attention, usually and why I used that figure, and for a couple reasons. ;-).


@david_ten > D. You don't mention your exit strategy. For me that would be the 'catch.'


Blindjim > thanks Dave… really.
“Be grateful I could throw that kind of dough at speakers.”
Unquestionably.

Looks and area…
You’ve seen the new pr when you heard them on entry level or dissimilar gear. And you’ve seen pics of the used pr. In the Audiogon ad likely spoken with the seller a bit too. So that’s a non issue.
I figure if one is about to pitch 20 large at something, they’re probably OK with the Esthetics and fit to the room right off. No prob.

It’s the ‘exit strategy” I’m not getting. Huh?


@twoleftears > Buy the used, and if you don't like them, sell them on. You're out, what?, 1K for an extended home audition. Compare that to what happens, cost-wise, if you don't like the new ones.

Blindjim > wow. I sure missed thinking about that idea. THANKS.

The sole caveat is the thing that both pr are not uber popular. A more eclectic sort of choice. GamuT, Rogers, Sanders, ESP, etc. not Foacl, Sonus Faber, BW, ML, etc.

Still in all, a very good strategy.

Inna> I have found speakers for you. Get them and send me a bottle of single…

Blindjim > the 7’s? or Gershwins?
The 7s are a tad tall at 69 inches.

The Black swans are doable but due to this proposition, I’d have to spend the balance on other speakers… sub?

Nice pick. I’m guessing you’ve heard Lancias.


@randy-11 > good call. Tanks.

Blindjim > Not a huge panel fan at all. Always impressed with their near tangible imaging though.
As for SF, only the older Cremona’s slightly got me. Their esthetic however is killer.

I’ve heard the SF strats. Nice. But I’ll pass. Again. Lovely wood work.


Inna > utopia? Whoa.


Blindjim > You like ‘em tall, huh? Lol
I may have to rethink a few things given these options of yours and some others input here. Really.

My focus apparently has been narrowed greatly to size and designs.

Alnic and VAC remain on the close in radar. Although, Bermister, PSA BHK, ypsalong, T+A, Gryphon are in the cross hairs too. Depending on the speaker I could go half and half power train, or all tubes. Depending.

Thanks for opening my eyes more. This is a very good thing and why I put up these seemingly inane threads. I sure don’t know it all. I just think I do. Lol
Oh, and I now have a 40 ft. aluminum and steel ramp so access and egress is a breeze. When I move, I’ll have to take this baby with me. That will not be a breeze however.