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Lyra Dorian Set Up Issues

I am looking for help and opinions regarding Lyra Cartridges. My system consists of Music Hall mmf.9.1 turntable, ARC PH8 Phono Pre, Arc LS27 Pre, Musical Fidelity M6prx amp, B&W 803S, more.

I was running a Paradox Pulse (like Zu) modified Denon DL103R that I really like but I wanted to get a little more detail. I am thinking of buying a Lyra Delos but I had a chance to get a nice deal on a Lyra Dorian to keep or use as a stopgap. My DL103r is easy to set up using Mofi Geodisc but the Lyra is tricky. Questions:

Best Tracking force for Dorian?

Anti Skating or not?

Loading ohms?

Other tips?

I have the Dorian mounted and tracking a 1.91 g but is doesn't seem to track well. when I drop into the lead groove it jumps into track 1. VTF has a great deal of effect on sound but I cant seem to get it right where the midrange congestion seems to open up.

My DL103R seems more dynamic and alive with 98% of the detail. The Lyra Dorian just had a new cantilever with micro line stylus (Namiki did the work) installed and has about 10 hours. More Questions:

How long does break in take for a rebuilt cartridge?

Is break in part of my issue?

I need to decide if I should keep the Lyra Dorian and work on set up and break in. Keep the Denon Pulse Paradox DL103r and leave well enough alone or sell both and by a Lyra Delos or something else.

Any help from the community would be greatly appreciated.










pilrem
sfall
346 posts
 
I forgot to put this in my first post. Your old cart puts out .25mv and the Lyra puts out .6mv. I would lower the gain as well.

Also, I wasn't too familiar with your modified Denon cart, so I went to the manufacturer's web site. It states that they put 100 hours on all carts before they get shipped out to customers. That's a really nice thing for them to do, but if you don't have a lot of experience with phono carts, you won't be aware of how big a factor break in really is. 
stringreen's avatar
stringreen
6,539 posts
 
I don't use antiskate....it makes the sound worse..
yogiboy's avatar
yogiboy
5,995 posts
 
Try using the anti-skating and see if that helps!
ninetynine's avatar
ninetynine
135 posts
 
I had Delos and Kleos. Both wasn't good trackers. About 50µm/315Hz they began distorting. For me they adds a type of top end to the music, that sometimes is great, but it can also be to much. After the Kleos i had an EMT JSD6, that has balls in the.....but not the resolution...
I think the DL103 has a complete other tonal focus as the Lyra.
stringreen's avatar
stringreen
6,539 posts
 
Yogiboy....a/s makes it worse not better.
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