Vandersteen 2WQ or REL Strata III.
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I have the REL Storm III which is $1800 for black and $2000 for wood veneers. They sell for $1500 demo/used mint on occassion here. The Storm III and Stratus III will perform basically the same; the Storm will go lower. The Vandersteen 2W is also musical. I have not heard it myself, but for under $1K the Monitor Audio ASW-210 has gotten some good reviews for being musical.
Used several of the above subs. The best one on a dollar per unidistorted dB of output is the HSU1220HO. A real deal in audio and don't let anyone who has not auditioned one at home tell you other wise. Check Issue 15 of the Audio Critic assessment and measurements for the straight goods. The others are not as good as you may think (or their designers for that matter) Been there, done that, wasted a lot of money...
Some folks will think I'm nuts, but last year Klipsch came out with their short-lived Sunfire-class sub: LF-10. They discontinued it quickly, reportedly because they decided not to enter an already well-served market. They're still available on eBay and other sources, typically for under $700. I have one, crossing it over at 50 Hz, and I'm well-pleased.
I am using a Sunfire Signature subwoofer with my Magnepan 3.5/R.You can get spectacular results if this sub is moved away from room boundaries (certainly not in a corner as recommended by Bob Carver) and if the volume is kept at a sufficiently low level so that the sub is audible only with bass material below about 50 Hz (if x-over is set at 30 Hz) and with the proper use of the phase adjustment . My Signature disappears completely in my system. The blend is seamless and the result is very musical. I tried the RELs, but they were too difficult to set up because the Phase adjustment was only 0/180, whereas the phase of the Sunfire can be adjusted continuously from 0 to 180. In the case of the RELs you had to move them until the "correct' location is determined. I think the Sunfire Signatures have received a bad rap from users who have not set them up properly. I get clean extension to about 16 Hz with air, power and definition.
Hi, Go for the Bag End, I love mine with all my speakers. Read a review by Galen Carol below. Also Stereophile class A. Id like to draw your attention to a quite wonderful subwoofer, the Bag End Infrasub 18. Whats a "Bag End," I hear you say. While the Company has been a well recognized fixture in the professional industry for some time (many of the movies you watch were mastered on systems using Bag End woofers), it has only recently become known in the consumer world. The Infrasub 18 uses a single 18" driver (dont stop reading, this one has none of the negatives youd expect from such large a driver) powered by a 400 watt built-in amplifier. The system is special due to the Companys proprietary ELF integration circuitry. The system is capable of reproduction to an astonishing 8Hz! But never fear, youll not find the distracting pumping and rumble so pervasive in lesser designs. What you will get is fast, tight, clean and very extended bass appropriate and consistent with the music. An ongoing subwoofer review in Widescreen Review has, over several issues, compared many subwoofers. The latest issue contained rave coverage of the Infrasub 18, it scoring better than any other woofer tested. Richard Hardesty writes " this subwoofer is so good its hard to find faults to write about the Infrasub 18 will be like a breath of fresh air to the critical listener who wants to really hear whats going on down there. The performance of the Infrasub 18 is outstanding in every way. It will be at home in a high end audio system or the finest home theater." High praise indeed, especially considering the Infrasub 18 sells for only $1495.00! For the first time, I find myself able to recommend a subwoofer priced within reach of most serious enthusiasts. How good is it? Better, in my opinion, than anything under ten Grand. Rated
I am not big on subs as I have never heard one improve the musical quality of the bass, but that may be more a reflection of my skills in integrating one with my main speakers. But I have tried a few and was rather impressed with the tightness of the Triad subs, even their cheapest one, which lost little in quality terms to the more expensive subs, just moved less air. I only mention it because I have never seen anyone else mention the Triads before on this site. Has anyone else heard them?
Sorry Redkiwi I have not heard of Triad. I have however heard lots of others and have come to the conclusion that really good base usually costs plenty and is very difficult to do properly. I have a small Kef unit in my home theatre system that is just OK. The best for home theatre I've heard are the velodyne and in the set up we used It took two to work well. They were 15 inch 450 watt downfiring. M and K used to be good makers of subs but now cater to the home theatre market/doesn't everyone/ . Blending subs into 2 channel is hard. My preference to bearly hear the sub and for it to really just add a presence. In two chanel the best I heard was a product call a David by D box. see www.d-box.com. A small company in Quebec, Canada which also makes the better known Mammouth . The David was playing with a small pair of castle monitors and the over all stage was huge. A crossover was not used but instead was fed from a second pre out from the pre amp. Then the volume turned up just till you start to hear it. There was not enough here to do organ well but it could make these small monitors much larger. My 2 cents is unless your budgets is in the many thousands leave it alone. cheers steve