rookie questions about used Bryston BDPs


I'm new to digital audio (and new out here), so be gentle with my ignorance!

I'd like to take the digital dive. I'm interested in streaming (Tidal and perhaps eventually Idagio or Primephonic); maybe Roon; definitely a hard drive with a range of music files, none of them obscure, many MP3s. That's it for now. Much of what I have is in iTunes.

For a few reasons, I'd like to go with Bryston. I can't afford a new BDP3; the Pi is doable, though as an experiment it's still pushing my budget. It doesn't look hard to find a *used* BDP1, BDP2, and BDP Pi. Almost certainly the BDP1 and BDP2 would be out of warranty; the BDP Pi would still be covered. My questions: assuming the used equipment is in excellent condition, would you rather have a BDP1 (at a modest price), a BDP2 (with or without the upgrade), or a (newer, under warranty) Pi? To tweak the question, if the BDP2 (let's say without the upgrade and out of warranty) and Pi (under warranty) were close to the same price, which would you choose? Full confession: I don't really know what the upgrade does, even after reading about it.

I understand that the BDP2 will have some features that the Pi doesn't have. I'm not sure if I would need those features; my needs seem pretty basic for now. Maybe a used BDP1 would do what I need. The subtext for my questions are obviously: is the Pi more "current" than the 1 or 2? Would the 1 do everything I need for now? And how important would you say the warranty is? 

Thank you for reading!

northman
Most of your questions can be answered by doing a little research in the Bryston circle section of audiocircle.com. The forum is facilitated by James Tanner and monitored by several of its employees. I will tell you that most of my equipment has/is/always will be Bryston for one very simple reason besides the fact that I like the sound, their customer service is bar none. There is no other company that I have come across in my almost 50 years on this planet that backs its products better than Bryston. They even repaired a 5 channel Lexicon amp (essentially a rebadged Bryston amp) that I purchased second hand on audiogon that showed up not working for a very fair price. My point is you can buy with confidence because even if the product you buy second hand is out of warranty and malfunctions they will still repair for a very reasonable fee and very timely turnaround. In regards to the the BDP, I have a BDP2 that I upgraded myself and installed a 1TB SSD that is over 6 years old and haven’t had any hardware problems and anything software related the unit can be put into a service mode that can be monitored remotely by Bryston. In regards to Roon I don’t think the BDP1 is powerful enough to run it effectively and overall the Bryston gear is still just an endpoint and not able to run as a rooncore yet. Good luck with your dive into digital.
I have the BDP3.  Sounds great, but the Manic Moose software is really subpar.   It is excruciatingly bad for Classical Music. If you are new to streaming, I would start with the Bluesound Node2 or Node2i.  It’s cheaper, sounds very good, and the App is much better and much more intuitive. It works well with all the streaming services, unlike the more picky Bryston .  It’s customer support isn’t as good as they launched, but compared with the likes of Marantz or Sony it’s superb.  If you then decide after a period of time that you want to upgrade to a better streamer, Bryston and others will be there.
  I haven’t heard the Bryston Raspberry Pi.  My understanding is that it doesn’t compare to the BDP3, but of course it is much cheaper.
When I was running the BDP1 a few years ago, it was as a Squeezebox endpoint which worked OK. The Bryston software is horribly outdated and not really well suited to streaming. Using it as a Roon endpoint would be my suggestion
Thank you all. I appreciate the help! I love Bryston (my amp is old enough to be out of warranty but still chugging along; my preamp is youthful enough) and live fairly close to their US offices. 

You've helped me narrow my choices to a used BDP2 or a Pi. 

And Pearlcfam: thank you, yes, I know the audiocircle forum that Tanner moderates. It's an amazing resource! I thought I'd try here first but that's a very good idea.

Thanks again!
I bought an upgraded BDP-2 on audiogon about two years ago to use as a Roon endpoint. The only issue I have had is that I had to replace the little button battery inside which Bryston customer service helped me with. They were very responsive via email when I had the issue (error on boot) and it was easy to replace.  

I have it connected over AES/EBU to an Yggy DAC and it sounds great. 

As previously mentioned, their software is pretty dated and not nearly as flexible as BlueOS, so if you are not planning to use Roon, I'd also recommend the BlueSound Node 2i (which I have several of for other zones in my house).
I have owned the BDP-2 now for several years. I have it connected to a 6TB hard drive where all my music including lots of HR files are stored. In addition, I am also running Quboz through it.
Perhaps the Manic Moose format is outdated but it works just fine for me!

I have installed the new IAD board which supports the AES/RCA output sound quality. But if you are only going to use USB out then the upgraded board is not necessary.

So, I say go for the BDP-2! Highly recommended by me!

ozzy


Thank you all so much. This is all VERY helpful, even the gently conflicting answers. The responses have not only helped shape my own answers, they've helped me to understand what questions to ask. And I hear you all: I'll pop over to Audiocircle and ask there.