as a side tangent, how does the dac6e compare to the dcc2 in regard to the dac only. i have a tube preamp so i will not utilitze the preamp functions of the dcc2.
i emailed emm and was told that the dac6e only upsamples to dsd from a non-emm transport while the dcc2 upsamples to double dsd from a non-emm transport.
anybody? |
I am considering to buy an used EMM LABS, the pre-owned price for a pair of older separate and a CDSA SE is around the same price, may I know if cdsa se single box will win on the cdse+dac6e separate? |
TEAC VRDS NEOs are all metal mechanisms ranging in weight between 8lbs and I suspect about 20lbs, depending on models. They are frightfully expensive to build. Even the lower end models -- which TEAC makes available to OEMs -- is sold for $2500. VRDS mechanisms are deemed to be extremely desirable by high end manufacturers when they can afford the price tag, because of their mechanical stability, precision of operation, general reliability. I know at least 3 companies that use them in some of their players: DCS, WADIA, Playback Designs, but there may be more. when a player features a VRDS transport, the fact is usually highlighted as a major selling point. To EMM's credit, if I recall correctly, TEAC did not yet sell its VRDS transports to OEMs when EMM was designing its player. You will find a lot of information on VRDS mechanisms by reading the TEAC America pages on players like the X-01, P03, P01. The OEM transport may be similar to that in the X-03. I believe the Philips OEM transports may be much less expensive and simple devices. Their use in players is almost by default. |
is it Teac VRDS Neo transport mechanism much superior than Philips or sony scd-1 in general consensus? |
Yes Maxx2man, Paganini it is I suspect. Apologies for confusion. DCS Rig includes external clock if I recall correctly. |
guidocorona,
the dcs puccini is a one box design. when you say "dcs stack", do you mean the paganini? |
I have compared side by side the X-01 (original) with Bermester 001 and Bel Canto PL1-A. See:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1090867688&openfrom&3&4#3
I have not had the opportunity of doing a/b tests of the original or the limited against any current multi-box offerings. However Audiogoner Babybear owned an X-01 Limited --; he has done the comparison with TEAC P03/D03; as a result is currently proud owner of a TEAC D-03/P03/G0s combo. Audiogoner Gshelley used to won TEAC P03/D03/G0s but prefers his current DCS Puccini-based stack, which includes external clock. I have heard both but have not compared them side by side; I suspect I may have a preference for the TEAC stack. Please note that the DCS stack as well as PD contain a TEAC
VRDS Neo transport mechanism similar to that found in Teac X-03. I believe EMM combos may contain a Philips drive. G. |
Guido,
Its okay, no apo'.
Actually X-01 limited is on my shopping list, if not with emm, did you compare with any other big boys out there? |
Oops, my apologies Grandetech! Even at intro prices you'd be blowing your budget with the PD. I have a TEAC X-01 Limited and positively love it. Some of the TEAC X-01 or X-01 Limited units that pop up on Agon from time to time may come within your budget. Like EMM, they sound magnificent after a LONG break in; X-01 are built like tanks and re very reliable; being single box units they do not require a miriad of extra PCs and ICs. Unfortunately I have never made an side-by-side comparison of my X-01 Limited with the EMM stack, so I do not even know myself which of the two I would prefer from a sonic/musical point of view. |
Guido,
As Pdreher said which is true, my budget is around 5k for some used units, some older version of meitner separatets are around that here. I don't see any playback design in agon sale though, I don't think I can get such new release here pretty soon.
Hi Tabl10s,
What about spectral? How would that compare to meitner non-SE separates? |
Have any of you heard the Spectral CDP? |
Jonathan Tinn (Jtinn) can give you the latest on web site, pricing, and contact info. |
Guidocorona - I too have heard great things about the MPS-5 and read Mike Lavigne's review. But I question your comment about the price of the MPS unit being a fraction of the EMM labs rigs. I think I recall seeing "used" EMM labs rigs selling for $6 to $8K vs. the MPS-5 which has an introductory price of approx. $10K, but soon to increase to $15K. Please set me straight if my assumptions are innaccurate.
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What is the website of PD? |
Unless your heart is set on EMM, you may also want to have a look at the new single box Playback Designs MPS-5. Fellow audiogoner DCSTEP, oneobgin, and mikelavigne have commented extensively on its sound qualitys. The latter 2 preferred it over their own EMM multi-box rigs and have replaced their EMM with brand new MPS-5s. . . . at a fraction of the cost of EMM rigs.
Here is a review by Mike Lavigne:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?rdgtl&1212275915&openfrom&1&4#1
In mid September I will have the opportunity of comparing directly the MPS-5 with a TEAC P03/D03/G0s combo and a DCS Puccini stack. G. |
I don't see a fan outlet at the back panel of the Dac6, is it just a small fan inside the unit like what we have on a computer cpu? |
Kgturner is correct. The differences are the added RCA connections and one less fan. Some of them had rackmount ability and some did not. Sonically there is no difference. |
between the dac6 and dac6e, i believe the original version used aes/ebu connections for all channels while the 6e included rca connections with the aes/ebu. i think the original version also had a small fan in it while the 6e did not. i'm not sure what changes were made from the 6e to 6e SE. |
