You don't need to go with a new processor for 3d, you can go direct to your tv with the Oppo and still have your existing processor decode the audio or you could have the Oppo do the decoding.
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Both the 5508 and 80.3 will get you superior audio compared with the 9.8 as well as permit 3D passthrough, although that will not be required with the dual HDMI outputs from the Oppo. However, you might consider the BDP-93 since the only major distinction between the 93 and 95 is the latter's superior analog outputs. You would be best off using the HDMI with any of the three mentioned prepros (including the 9.8) anyway.
There is nothing else I would recommend under $5k.
Certainly,it is not my place to tell you how to spend your money; however, looking at the components in your system, I would consider moving up the chain to the Denon processor ($4400), Class 800, Anthem D2 and others. Any of those units will provide you with the same level of quality as you already have. I am surprised your other components did not jump the integra/onkyo and tell it to scram, it was in the wrong neighborhood.
Thanks Kal. I've already got the BDP-95 installed. I've also already got 2-channel more than covered.
The only issue is the Audyssey processing difference between the Integra 9.8(MultEQ XT) and the 80.2 or 80.3(MultEQ XT32). I have never directly compared this, so don't have any idea. Is it night and day? Subtle? I really can't see how this difference alone could be worth $2600 to me(less whatever I could get for the 9.8). Please enlighten me? Thanks.
Mig007 - there was some muffled muttering early on, but that soon subsided. :-)
I appreciate your comment and that was my original thinking as well. However, the Integra is pretty well holding its own, with the addition of the Oppo's video. The problem is there is no place to compare the products you mentioned and no one I have been able to find who has sufficient knowledge of both my current system and these processors to be able to tell which would integrate the best.
In addition, since I already have 2-channel covered and only really watch movies in the winters, a processor's "usage factor" is not very high in my system right now. I suppose if I were to hear a processor that simply blew me away I would be interested, but for anything short of that I'll probably be OK as I am for now. I'm not sure about 4K, but we're not there yet...
I have an Onkyo Pro SC885 processor with a Oppo BDP 95 and run 2.1 and 5.1 multichannel analogue from the Oppo as it kills the Onkyo processing. I can even utilize the DTS Master Audio and Dolby Digital Plus through analogue too. the 2 channel from the Oppo 95 is also exceptional too compared to the Onkyo which is fair. I had talked with a fella from Onkyo which said the upgrade processor which is the 5508 would not be a huge upgrade in sound quality from the 885. It does have few more options than mine of course but not worth the money. Assuming the extremely highest caliber of the Sabre32 Reference ES 9018 from ESS Technology was defeating my Onkyo I myself would have to probably go to a separate processor like Wyred for Sound as they use ESS technology. Unless someone has a higher experience of decoding than that.
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Thanks for your comments. It sounds like you are making good use of the Oppo as well! I have been very impressed with its capabilities, especially at its price-point.
I'm using digital sound from the Oppo into the Integra and it obviously sounds great. The only reason for me to upgrade processors at this point would be to gain access to Audyssey XT32 processing, 1 level above XT, which I currently have, for movies only. That's it.
Since my HT system is 5.1, not increasing in the near future, and has video covered by the Oppo, I can't convince myself that I will hear a big enough audible difference by upgrading processors. It seems to make more sense to wait a while, enjoy what I have, and if I upgrade processors later on, do it with a product that will also upgrade video beyond the capabilities (current and future) of the Oppo 95+. In other words, make a SUBSTANTIAL upgrade when technology allows, not just something incremental at this point. Since my new Oppo-95 setup has ALREADY resulted in a substantial upgrade from what I had, I'm very happy for now. :-)
Thank you all for your input - it has been invaluable in allowing me to reach a comfortable decision, at least for now. Let someone else support the economy for a change!! :-) Happy New Year to All!!
I cannot believe that you find the analog from the 95 via the 885 is superior to HDMI since the 9.8 (equivalent of the 885) has mediocre analog inputs which would compromise that arrangement. Had you said that you were using an 80.2 or 80.3 I would accept that as a possibility (although I would not agree). In fact, the analog inputs are one of the real improvements over the first generation prepros. There are others.
K. Maybe I need to specify my hookup and setup. My apologies:
Parasound power amp 5channel to Onkyo pre outs
5.1 rcas from Oppo to Onkyo
5.1 audio outs from Oppo to 5.1 multichannel ins on Onkyo
Hdmi 1 from Oppo(video only) to Hdmi Onkyo
Onkyo displays Multichannel Direct
Are you saying that I am hearing analogue from the Onkyo and not Oppo?
Of course you are. The input stage of the Onkyo, its volume control circuitry and its output stage. I have no doubt that the 95 analog output is superb but it is constrained by the Onkyo which, in my experience, is not great. With a better prepro or analog preamp, I might use that but with the 885/9.8, I would prefer HDMI.
Kal, the Integra Research RDC-7.1 was a surround pre-processor that was modular in design. One could order the unit based on which features chosen and a card with those features plugged in. An example was having an extra set of 7.1 inputs. It was designed with BAT and had the Apogee technology from its Ben unit for lowing of jitter.
I believe it sounds very good, but I don't know how it stacks up against a Bel Canto or Parasound P7, or even a McCormack. The Integra is made by a mass consumer product company as opposed to the above. I realize that the Integras, Panasonic, and other similiar situated companies once in awhile come out with awesome products then lapse back to mediocrity.
Thanks Kal - OK, well that makes 2 significant differences!! BTW, I sent you an e-mail.... :-) Whether it makes sense to look at $5-10K (after CES, of course) given my limited use for just AUDIO of movies only? Seems like paying for features (like video, 9.1, etc.) that I just don't need, but I could be wrong.... Any suggestions?
Are you saying with a integra 80.2 or .3 and an oppo 95 music listening is still better using hdmi rather than analogue outputs.
I am currently using a 9.8 and thought about upgrading to 80.2 and oppo 95 .
Dont know if the 500 dollar increase is justified 93 to 95 if hdmi and 9.8 or 80.2 is used foe processing
I will use for music and home theater
An Integra dealer told me I could run analog outs from my Oppo into my 9.8 and still not lose Audyssey. I tried to do this yesterday but couldn't get the Integra into multichannel mode to accept the Oppo signal. Integra was not much help either. Common sense tells me it won't work, but I need to at least try it.
Also, any new HT developments out of CES related to this thread?
An issue with the Audyssey is that it won't recognize my sub unless it is directly attached to the Integra. Since it is hooked up to my 2-channel audio preamp, which is in turn connected to the Integra, its not being recognized. I suppose I could just hook it directly to the Integra for calibration pruposes?
I'm not a fan of any sort of "switches" in an audio chain - any suggestions? My theory was to just carry over the sub settings manually when I re-connect the sub to my 2-channel preamp. Thanks.
Also, did you see anything new under $5K that competes with the Integra/Onkyo? I've also been looking at used Theta Casablanca IIIs, but that seems to be several levels more intense than I currently want to deal with for HT. There are also way more variables and options than I really want to deal with, unless there is some way to simplify all this.
There are subwoofers like Rythmik or MLogan that accept two simultaneous connections, an LFE from the prepro and a line level from the pre. You will need two outputs from your stereo pre; one for your mains and the other for the sub. There are other solutions, like the one offered by SVS, which put the sub between your pre and your mains. Check their websites.
Regarding the MX121, did Mc people tell which D/As are they using?