MAC & VSA Synergy?

It all depends on what you tastes are. I have listened to the 4jrs on several occasions in different systems and find them lacking transparency and dynamics so they would not compliment Mcs very well. McIntoshes are most synergistic with fast and open speakers. So, since you are asking for my thoughts, 4jrs with Mc amps would be a little too soft sounding for my tastes. Good luck! Arthur

I really haven't had a chance to get a good listen to the VSA's, what I did hear I liked the dealer at the time had them hooked up to Mc's and I though they paired well. But as a McIntosh owner I agree with Aball in that Mc' do offer a softer more laid back sound. I am referring to Solid State not tube. I have and still consider selling the Mc's I have to get something new. I listened to the BAT and really liked that sound. I just am fund-poor at the time to make the consideration any stronger. You might look into other amps for your 4 jrs. I do love my mc's but in honesty if I couldn't see them I would probably dial that down to a strong liking.

I was under the impression you didn't have 4jrs yet. Your system page shows Tylers.

Sorry, my system page is very old. I do have the Jr's & love them but don't think a "laid back" sound is what I am after. I guess I may just try the BAT 500, for a large SS amp unless anyone else has any other suggestions.

If you want forward sound, BAT will be great. Pass Labs would be another good choice with 4jrs. There are many others - you will just have to experiment and see for yourself. Let us know what you find out. Arthur

VR-4JR’s are not lacking transparency and dynamics. It’s the McIntosh amp that’s holding them back. I’ve auditioned McIntosh amp with VR-4JR’s and Pro-Ac response 25 and felt the amp was too slow, too mellow and not engaging for my taste. This amp requires bright speakers to complement it.

Since I’m on a market to buy an amp, has anyone auditioned CIA D-200 with VR-4JR’s. Does D-200 have enough power to drive VR-4Jr’s effectively?

There’s a tendency for some amp to sound veiled and not dynamic at low levels. What about D-200’s performance at low listening levels?

-Alex

I never auditioned the 4jrs with McIntosh amps. Only Kora, Odyssey, and Thule amps which is what I based my observations on.

The Channel Islands for some reason don't apeal to me, a friend has also suggested trying them. I am intrigued by digital amps but would be more interested in a Bel Canto or Spectron. Krell gear has always been something I want to try as well. I don't mind experimenting with my gear & enjoy the process of trying new gear, I feel it is some of the fun in this hobby.
So, I am looking for suggestions on an amp in the $2,000 range that will compliment my Jr's & provide some more power than my BAT VK60 (which I absolutely LOVE)

i'm the "friend" who suggests CIA. Only because I want to hear them.
:)

I guess without getting too deep, it is hard for me to take the CIA amps seriously. An in-home audition would be best but I would need to do a little more research on them before I did anything else. I guess I am looking for a company with more time in the market, a proven track record of sorts.

How about the Velluto. This looks like a extremely well made Class D amplifier! Sometimes stepping off the beaten path can lead you to bliss.I haven't heard this one yet.But have played with a few different types. This sucker is made well from everything I can see. One thing I've learned about this type of amplifier. Speaker loads don't seem to slow them down the least bit.
If there were a low wattage version of it ..hell I might jump on one myself.:-)

Good luck with the hunt!

I would say McIntosh beats Bryston in the "company history and longevity" category since they have been around for 52 years. The CIA do seem interesting - I would be tempted to give them a try just to see what they are like.

Up until recently I used a MAC 6900 integrated with my 4JR's. Sounded great and the 6900 drove the Jr's with very musical results. Auditioning in your system is really the only way to go and places like Music Direct and Audio Advisor offer 30 day in home trials on the gear they sell. You can also find 30 trials on the new Nuforce amps. I would go that route, or buy gear used that you not have to take a loss on.

Tvad: What were the results??

So what other choices are out there besides one of the new digital amps? The Pass amps always get high praise, how are the newer ones? I noticed they have more power.

Fishwater: I just received a new Pass Labs 250.5, driving my 4JR's. I cannot report specific findings yet as I have a lot of breaking in to do on several parts of my system. But, I will post some comments in a few weeks.

Great! Let me know your thoughts.