They are Cardas. What color is the cable jacket? The shrink tube on the end connectors is probably grey and Neutrik is the brand of connectors. The printing on Cardas wire is notorious for fading away with time and use.
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Sounds like an early Cardas XLR cable. The early Cardas cables use to have silent terminators printed on the shrink.
Just stay away from any so called "Gold" interconnects. They produce the worse sound as Jade cables does. Very bright, thinned out, very ear hurting and cheap sounding. Target sells the same gold plated interconnects for about $7.99.
Swampwalker you are right on point, Joefama comes out of left field to slam Jade Audio, that does sound like an agenda. I've heard the Jade Audio cables, and would have to believe that Joefama, if indeed he has heard the Jade Audio cables, has it backwards, it's his Target cables that suck, someone switched them on him for a chuckle.
Stick with your Target i/c's Joefama, and your white van speakers.
FWIW, I've heard Jade Audio cables, as well as top cables from Nordost, Cardas, Jena Labs, PAD, Audioquest, etc. They certainly don't sound anything like Joefama's description, in fact, you could just use his description as the antithesis of Jade Audio cables.
My guess is that he slams them because they are out of his price range. Maybe he's jealous of JD's success, who knows? The point is that second paragraph has no business on this thread.
After Joefama's slam of Shunyata on another thread, I'm starting to wonder if he indeed does have a hidden agenda, or is just plain deaf. Come on out of the closet Joe...what brands are you selling?
guys,guys please don't get into a riff over this. i did see the faint writing on the cable after I posted my question. They are gold reference. The shrink is indeed grey with neutrik.One pair had the writing but the other does not. Can I assume these are factory installed? I had a buyer cancel the order just b/c of no writing. If anyone is interested I'll sell the pair for $400 shipped.I have them listed for more but you guys have been very helpful. Thanks very much! ken