According to the website I don't think CAST copper is an option for the mini probably due to the size of the CAST caps I've heard that they are very large though I've not actually ever seen one. |
looks like you can upgrade to Mundorf's silver/oil or silver/oil/gold on the mini check wiring link on the website. My pair is stock except for the resonator and I'm trilled with them. |
Too funny!!! But i am still a little disappointed I thought we had a bad economy? perhaps just my economy. |
Brf,
I asked about upgrading on my instruments being built not the mini's! |
I was hoping to match my silver internal wire with silver caps and inductor. Knowing how expensive CAST copper is I was prepared for a 3-5K upgrade for the silver which to me makes sense. |
I'm fine with the copper CAST in-fact thrilled to have such great components in my new speakers and for my system copper is appropriate! If you have some voodoo mega-bucks pure silver transformed amps built by Japanese monks well then silver is a no brainer.
There must be more to it than just the metal when it comes to the CAST in silver. |
I'm sure I would like Lenehan Audio too! I alway's wanted Dunlavy's back in the day! I think dc10 has a similar idea to Dunlavy with minimal filter but drivers chosen for their clean roll off thus delivering more detail. Looks to me are very impotant too very very important and I don't like the looks of the rockports. |
Chill out I only asked about upgrading I'm sticking with the included CAST copper foil like I said I cannot pay an extra $50K for something no one can eve measure! |
So no one out there can explain the huge difference in price from CAST copper foil to silver? It surly is not just the metal. |
then why is silver 12 times more $$$ |
If that's the case and I hope not! I'll find out be emailing Deulund in Denmark and asking for prices on silver foil. |
Hi Charles, I know your right everyone has said CAST copper is a revolution. I guess I'm just a little disappointed by dc10 as they have made the Grand Voix speaker come with the CAST silver as standard and the copper as a cheaper alternative after i placed my order I thought i was getting the top model and i just don't see how the math can be correct. I want the silver but for 3-5K upgrade not 30-50K. |
So it's not margin I found out that the 15" alnico woofers cost more than all the drivers combined in another speaker I was considering if it's a mark-up deal it at Deulund not dc10 |
Why are you people so paranoid? Is it because audiogon is exclusively a vendor's forum?
I am not mountain high..besides, who cares anyway and I'm not bashing dc10 I'm a customer. The only bashing I've seen was from vapor1 perhaps he is mountain high?
Steve B |
Thanks Charles!
I'm fine with my choice and know the copper foil represents the state-of-the-art my only wish is that Duelund in Denmark take a look at their pricing and make the CAST silver foil a viable option for people. |
after a bit of looking at past posts it does look like vapor and mountain could be the same..Why are they so busy bashing dc10? |
Here have a look!
AudiogoN Forums: Vapor Cirrus Black vs dc10 Berlin Studio Monitor
10-29-12 Rebbi, jp1208, and vapor 1 same poster.. what's vapor worrie ... Mountain-high 10-29-12 Cause he's mountain high? just be aware that he sells dc10 s ...
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10-19-12: Vapor1 Mountain-high ... and vapor 1 same poster.. what's vapor worrie ... Mountain-high 10-29-12 Cause he's mountain high? just be aware that he sells dc10 ...
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Vapor1 10-19-12 Mountain-high, i was at rmaf and heard dc10audio system and ... ... jp1208, and vapor 1 same poster.. what's vapor worrie ... Mountain-high
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Vapor1 10-19-12 Mountain-high, i was at rmaf and heard dc10audio system and ... ... jp1208, and vapor 1 same poster.. what's vapor worrie ... Mountain-high
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Vapor1 10-19-12 Mountain-high, i was at rmaf and heard dc10audio system and ... ... jp1208, and vapor 1 same poster.. what's vapor worrie ... Mountain-high |
And another.. Vapor1, Mountain high, rebbi how many others?
Any of you heard the Vapor Audio Cirrus or Breeze?, posted on August 16, 2012 at 06:58:10
villastrangiato
Schumacher,
You might have carte blanche over at the Parts Express website to spew technically incorrect non sense, self promotion, and abrasive blather but there are specific rules that go along with using this website - to wit:
"A member of the trade may not volunteer any information about a specific product that he is selling or making, in response to a general request for information about a type of product or in any other discussion.
A trade member may not post announcements, advertisements, sales information or the like about a product he makes or sells."
You just violated both of the above. As for my comments concerning Vapor Audio, there are no "two sides" to what I posted. The sole proprietorship that is Vapor Audio consists of Ryan Scott who has no formal education or background in engineering. Given some of the rambling non sense you've put forth over on Parts Express, your formal education appears to be somewhat lacking as well:
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?225045-Impact-of-Helmholtz-Tuning-Ratio-on-Response
For Dennis to take the rather unusual step of posting on several forums messages begging Ryan to contact him over the return of a loaned amp speaks volumes by itself. I simply stated that that situation was amusing. Knowing a fair amount about you and your association with Ryan - that situation made perfect sense and came as no surprise.
Anyone can make pretty boxes and stuff them with expensive drivers. I've been to most of the North American shows and have heard just about everything that is available on the market. A lot of pretty boxes with expensive drivers that sound no better than a garden variety PSB, Paradigm, or B&W speaker. Beyond the pretty boxes and expensive components, I found nothing extraordinary in listening to Ryan's speakers - certainly nothing consistent with the hype you've given them in your second post (pure unpaid advertising blather) on thi |
Yet another:
Any of you heard the Vapor Audio Cirrus or Breeze?, posted on July 30, 2012 at 05:23:12
villastrangiato
He's a meteorologist from Missouri that became an "expert" loudspeaker builder with a DIY website education... What more do you need to know?
The bit about the amplifier he "borrowed" that seems to have "vaporized" is truly amusing though...
I am going to spend some time researching a few other posters here on audiogon and if most here are just shills for vendors or vendors I'll get this d---thing shut down! |
Thank you Mitch for clarifying!.
From what I've researched thus far apparently Unlike Mundorf and other ploy caps the Duelund CAST uses no poly or plastic and greatly reduces that overly bright and sometimes harsh sound and replaces it with an open fast but not harsh sound like the cap isn't even there..magic! I can't wait to actually experience them myself. |
looks like I found Mountain High.
He's back to bashing Wilson audio. Asia guy? same writing style, same mode of operation. He's not touting dc10audio anymore just bashing others.
Read: Sound Familiar?
03-29-13: Bo1972
I have been about 6 times at clients with Wilson Audio speakers. they had one thing in common. They had a lot of acoustic problems. Some music you even could not play. They say Wilson make very fast speakers in respons. To be honest I don't think so. Wenn timing is better with speakers you get less acoustic problems. I sold my Pass Labs XA100.5 to a client with Puppy 7 speakers. To be honest it was quite good. Most times I listend to Wilson speakers I would not even want them for free in my room. Because I prefer en deeper and wider stage first. And second instruments and voices need to be extreemly sharp focussed and in the right proportion. This is a part were Wilson is not as it's best. With many amps Wilson speakers sound lean and far from musical. And yess then you need tube to make it sound acceptable.
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