HELP with Speakers for a 11 ft X 12 ft room???


I just moved and unfortunately the size of my room shrank!! I am in a 12' 3" by 11' 6" room with 7 1/2 foot ceilings. Speakers are along the shorter 11 foot wall. I have 2 ASC 16" diameter tube traps in my corners and 2 16" traps between the speakers. My current rig consists of Piega P-8-LTD speakers, Accuphase DP-75v cd player and an Accuphase A-50v amp. I am not sure if a smaller monitor speaker would be a better fit for this room?? It seems like I am not getting the soundstaging / imaging and depth that I was accustomed to - ALSO my ears hurt now when listening at loud levels!!
I like to listen to mostly mainstream rock - classic rock and female vocal recordings. I like to listen at fairly loud levels as well. Am I loosing my mind OR should I try a smaller speaker design?? - I was thinking of Totem Mani-2's, B&W Nautilus 805's OR Dynaudio 1.3's.

Thanks for any help or input!

Chris
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try a diagonal setup. also, try putting some acoustic panels etc at reflection points along w/ diffractor behind seat.

i used to get headaches too in a 12*13*8 room. i don't anymore.

rhyno
My room is 12'x9'x7.5' and I really tamed the boomy bass by putting my speakers (Linn Ninka activ) on Aurios. The spikes seemed to turn the floor into a resonating board. The Aurios didn't cure it but the improvement was dramatic.

Stuart
audition the Totem model 1's, staff, or hawk speakers for a small room. I currently use the model 1's with a rel strata III sub in 1 room and a pair of totem arros in my den. They are very nice sounding speakers but I would not suggest the arros for load rock type of music. The arros are made to position close to a back wall if that would help you.
I have found that bass boominess can be reduced by either moving the speakers further out from the front wall, as well as moving your ears further out from the back wall.

Of course, moving the speakers further out from the front wall also has the added benefit of increasing depth.

Small rooms will generally have more reflection problems, by the mere fact that you can't get your speakers far away from either the front wall or the side walls. Try to get the speakers at least 1.5ft away from any wall.

I have also found that placing echo busters (or acoustic foam for a cheaper solution) at the first reflective points on the side walls to help improve imaging. Also, make sure the floor is either fully carpeted, or at least has a fairly large rug.

With your room dimensions, this is what I would do. It's almost square so it doesn't really matter whether you place the speakers on the shorter or the longer wall. I would place each speaker 2.5 ft from the side wall (measured to center of speaker). That should then make the speakers about 7 ft from each other (again measured to center of speaker). Now move the speakers out about 3 ft from front wall (measured to front of speaker). You should sit about 8 to 9 ft from each speaker, which should leave about a foot between you and the rear wall. This is not as far as I would like from the rear wall, but you can help by placing some absorbent or diffractive material on the wall(if necessary). Play around with toe-in until you get the best balance between imaging and width (can't help you on this one as each speaker is different). But it's worth noting that in a small room, more toe-in does help by reducing the reflections.

By the way, I own Nautilus 805 speakers and very happy with them. I've found that front firing ports are better if you can't get the speakers far away from the front wall. Let us know how you go with these suggestions.
Anyone else try a diagnal set-up before? Sounds quite interesting - i hadn't considered it and would like to get people's perspective on it.