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Teres, Galibier and Redpoint

After a lot of research deciding whether I should upgrade the motor on my Avid Volvare or my cartridge I have now decided that upgrading my transport is the way to go. I don't have to worry about motor compatability problems and I can always upgrade my cartridge at a later date. Being that I nearly always prefer pursueing the small company, and that the unsuspended route seems right, the three shops above have really caught my interest.

The Teres 320 or 340, Galibier Gavia and Redpoint Model A all cost about the same. But the same problem arises, I don't have an opportunity to hear and compare them and unless it's on my system, it doesn't really matter. I in no way mean to insult Chris, Thom or Peter, but what seperates these three tables in term of sonics? I say this only because they are contributors to this forum. Anyone have any opinions?

My arm is a Tri-Planar VII. Phonostage a Thor. Art Audio SET amps. Systrum rack. Thanks for your input. Richard
richardmr
richardmr OP
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Thanks for the education. It has been fascinating. Now, to complicate things further, has anyone compared some of the finest high mass, unsuspended designs (Galibier, Teres, Redpoint, etc., etc.,) with the finest suspended designs (Avid, Oracle, etc., etc.,). We probably know the arguements for both sides by now and that execution is more important than which design. Are there any small Galibier-like shops that manufacturer suspended designs? I think I recognize that any choice, as long as the arm/cartridge/table combo is synergistic, will be a good one, but are we really sure all the damping/weight, done very well, is the better choice. As I've said when I started this thread I have a suspended Avid Volvere and was looking to upgrade. One thing I believe is that with my table and Systrum rack (which drains and doesn't damp) the vibration just floooows into my concrete floor. But, also, my choice to a/b borders on nill. Anyone have anything to volunteer in this area?
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thom_at_galibier_design
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Hi Richard,

I've been woefully behind on this thread due to working on some background issues. As I wrote to Dan_ed privately, I'll expand on the Anvil and other questions in the next 36 hours.

Regarding suspended designs, there's a new keeper of the Merrill turntable flame. Check out the AR Vinyl Nirvana site at: http://www.vinylnirvana.com/

Specifically, it's my understanding that Anthony Scillia is carrying the AR/Merrill torch. The direct link to that page on this site is: http://www.vinylnirvana.com/ar_mods1.shtml

IMHO, the Merrill turntable (evolved from George's mods of the AR), is the best suspended turntable I've ever heard.

Back when Chris first met me, it was my trusty Merrill that made him get back into vinyl after some 20 years of buying into the promise of digital. I had heard many contenders to the throne over the 9 years I ran my Merrill Heirloom and they all fell short of the mark by varying degrees. I've not heard the latest Oracle, but this is perhaps the only other suspended turntable I'd consider. But that's just me ...

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier
aoliviero
269 posts
 
Dan,

Congrats. Great decision on the Galibier and Triplanar.
dougdeacon
3,338 posts
 
Dan,

Lasagnushi is a secret password, used only by a few cognoscenti during their most sacred rites. If you post it again Jyprez, Swampwalker and I will send Opus Galibier after you!

I don't think Larry and I disagree on the UNIverse/2.2 as a combo. The UNIverse is well behaved on every arm it's been tried on, including the 2.2. That combo would give you no problems. It's just not as alive or involving as the UNIverse/Schroeder and UNIverse/TriPlanar combos.

Larry has posted similar impressions in the past, so I believe we're on the same page. Of course if you buy a UNIverse you'll soon be able to repeat our 2.2 vs. TriPlanar comparison using your own table. Then you can tell us.

As Larry suggested, if it were me I'd sell the 2.2 and buy a Schroeder to pair with your TriPlanar. Based on the posts on this thread and your own recent experience, a UNIverse/TriPlanar + XV-1S/Schroeder setup would have the cognoscenti flocking to your chambers.
dan_ed
2,451 posts
 
Obewan, please forgive the transgression of one who is but a wee nematode on the path to audio enlightenment!

Now if I can just find that extra $12K I had lying around. . .
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