End Game Phono Preamp (tube)


Before you say ALLNIC a few caveats - I will only be using one TT so only need one input (MC). ALLNIC has up to 4 which is a lot of extra engineering I don't need and don't want to pay for. I'm coming from a very much loved Hagerman Trumpet MC with all the finest (to my ears) NOS tubes, external linear power supply, upgraded footers. It sounds terrific but I just have to scratch that itch to see if I can do better. If the only improvement I'll be getting by going up the food chain is less hiss, well, I can live with the existing hiss truthfully. I'd be expecting improved imaging, depth, resolution, cymbal decay beauty. Maybe I have it all now... if anyone has first hand experience with the Trumpet and can with an informed opinion offer a better option I'm all ears (hehe). 

fastricky

the debate is over,  @atmasphere,  he verdict has been in a long time"you get the best MC sound quality with a properly matched and loaded SUT into a MM phono.t case closed.

@cey  This statement is false, based on a logical fallacy of limited sample size. 

You cannot get the bandwidth of direct-in from the best SUTs available. SUTs also have distortion due to the sigmoid curve that is a function of all transformers. Case closed on that.

This isn't saying that all SUT setups are inferior to all phono sections that can operate direct-in. But the two parameters I listed are very real. However the question really is: is it worth it going direct in since the extra gain needed will result in more distortion?

A way around that of course is to run the direct-in circuit fully differential. Not only will it be lower distortion; it will also be lower noise. When comparing side by side with the correct loading for the SUT, the direct-in has always been more transparent (BTW the best way to know that is to have access to the master tape; I've been doing recordings and mastering LPs so this is not a challenge). 

We spec our phono section to 100KHz on the RIAA de-emphasis curve. Most SUTs are incapable of that sort of response. Yet we don't have issues with RFI and if a different cartridge is used, its plug and play. No having to sort out what the correct loading is (which, if an SUT is used, will be different from cartridge to cartridge).

The debate is far from over; its not really a debate anyway, since it won by what works the best as opposed to wordplay.  

 

@kennyc  NVO is still in business they never had a website. 😢

Yesterday we actually sold another NVO SPA-One SE 14 tubed phono. Loading is done via "Loading rca plugs" that are located next to phono rca inputs. Very simple and allows you to load any cartridge to give you any load required.

 

(Dealer disclaimer)

I would go Triangleart. They specialize in turntables and their linestage preamp has gotten very good reviews. I also happen to have one. It’s considered a boutique business but very good quality and great sound. If you don’t want brand new there’s one in an estate sale from David Weinhart that he’s accepting offers on.

@cey...@atmasphere is Ralph Karsten.  He manufacturers some of the best tube equipment out there.

Pretty sure he knows what he is talking about...