Enter the modern hifi world. Try this test.

@frank009, I'll loan you my spouse for a day.  She's used to what my system can achieve but wants to light it up with one switch.  Doesn't matter whether it's streaming, a cd, a lp, a cassette, the big screen, a dvd, or FM....

...and then there's the choice of speaker pairs, to sub or not to sub....eq or not to eq....

..and now moving and setting up in a smaller space that one can 'overdrive' db-wise to the point of flexing the sheetrock.

"As long as it's Absolutely Perfect....."

I've tried written instructions...but at least the amp has the sense to go thermal and shut itself down...

Reality is a strange beast at best. ;)

@knock1 Whatever you are smoking, enjoy it!

@frank009 I don’t smoke anything. I don’t even drink alcohol. 

@knock1 - injury of brain matter may not be from external sources. Could be lack of development

@frank009 Can you convince your wife to sit with you.. 

You’re really clueless as to this hobby. We build our audio chains based on our own subjective personal sonic preferences, which may be beyond your understanding based on your limited/non-existant experience with high-end Sonics. As such, we don’t need vindication from those outside our hobby 

@audphile1 

Seems like you want to play the "tough guy" with your mafia member profile photo. I've seen that guy before on TV, and he's obviously not you. Not even close.

@kennyc 

Another outlandish post from you. Congrats. Goes to show how far you've come with over 2800 posts. You are like @cleeds , although learning from him on how to pontificate like a witness in a courtroom that has no clue and wants nothing more than to establish some narrative.

so BASICALLY what i was saying.... 

was that if you can get a layperson (meaning a non-audiophile) or someone who, has never heard good stereo equipment APPRECIATE your system, then you've done it. If you can make them feel something, smile, you know, get goosebumps and really fall in love with the performance and appreciate music as a form of art, then your system is transparent enough and you've done well.

Sadly, I'm NOT talking about you!

@frank009 Because digital audio has advanced to the point where we are at its limits, 

Simply a baseless opinion 

@frank009 and can shrink down the electronics this small, without sacrificing anything.

Another baseless opinion

@frank009 Just look at how far computers and smartphones have come. Audio reproduction is no different in the digital domain.

and another baseless claim.

It’s such a head scratcher to think that better parts and better engineering leads to nothing. Simple sonic upgrades to linear power supplies or better clocks are ignored. Taken a production audio engineer’s opinion as truth for a completely different discipline of maximizing the sound of recorded music is folly without looking at both sides is a sign of great lacking and laziness. It is not uncommon for high-end audio to reach “fool you it’s real” level, something the OP wouldn’t know unless they went out to demo for themselves. 

The OP is making sonic judgments without listening

The arrogance of thinking that their opinion is truth for all is typical of limited thinking. 

Yes, it is irksome when someone claims we in the hobby are mislead without any proof or any effort for the OP to find out what we doing this hobby. I question the purpose of this thread as there are those who simply like conflict. There’s a high probability that the OP’s self esteem is linked to his being right or wrong.