McIntosh amp dilemna


Hello all. I am looking to move to a McIntosh amp to pair with my upgraded B&W N802’s. I’ve narrowed the list to an MC402, MC302 and MC7270(assume all are serviced and up to date). The wild card is a Coda #8 V1. Does anyone have experience with any of these pairings or have solid advice to give? I don’t want to get flamed but am currently running a restored Sansui CA 3000 preamp that will be moved to a secondary system in near future. Thanks community and have been following and learning for many years. 

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I may have some insight in this; First I ran a restored Sansui CA2000 for a couple years before I found a significant enough upgrade in a Mcintosh C2700 preamp. So no worries about using that preamp they are very good for the era.

I recently moved from a Mac system C2700 preamp - MC301 mono blocks to a Coda CSIB V1 which is basically a #8 and their top preamp in one chassis. I got the Coda as an interim amp while I save up and ordere a new Tube preamp-SS amp. I’m running magico A3’ for speakers.

I find the Coda is more detailed than the Mac’s were, similar bass and midrange but better top end. I would say the mac mono blocks had a little better sound staging but not enough to be an issue (probably the tubes in the preamp, NOS Mullards). The Coda has excellently detailed bass more then the mac’s, but not quite as deep as the mac’s very slight here. The Codas top end is not overly bright but very detailed. Midrange is excellent on both with the Coda being a little more detailed but not as euphoric (probably the tubes again).

The hi biased class A definitely gives you that Class A vibe. The V1 is the hi biased version so 18wpc at class A then 150 into 8ohms 300 into 4ohms etc. If I was going to do it again, I may have gone with the V2 little less class A 12wpc I believe but more power in A/B.

 Finish quality of the Mac is slightly better then the Coda but this is opinion only as both are well made. Coda’s a little harder to keep clean with the brushed aluminum case work, splitting hairs here. Both are great at what they do but the Coda IMO is the more detailed of the two, better over all sound, the Mac’s more relaxed, more powerful sounding. Oh, The Coda hi biased class A doesn’t run that warm so no issue there. Currently selling my CODA integrated my preamp is in stock, Thoress Full function preamp :-) now the amp mmm not sure yet.

The Coda #8 is a fine amp, but AG member YYZ has owned both the Coda and the Schiit Wotan. He states the Wotan is just as good as the Coda, and at a much lower price (list $2,000). I also own the Wotan and can state it is a great amp.

Thanks to both of you for taking the time to share. Appreciate the detailed responses and have much research to do!

The best amp I ever paired with my B&W 800 D's was the Classe Omega Reference Mono's.  I had 5 Mono Block with 5 800D's. I loved the amps so much that I bought another pair last year.  Well I sold them this past week and the guy hooked them up to his B&W Matrix which is one of 3 pairs of B&W's that he has.  His amps that he was using were Mac 1.25kw's.  His words today was:

"Sounds great!"

"I don’t want to even think about doing A B testing with mc1.25"

"Mc1.25 is noway closer to this"

He went for $9200 for the pair inclusive of shipping.  $7k cheaper than the Mac's!

the next best thing is a pair of Classe Cam600's.  I saw a pair sell for $6k recently.  They just pair well!  I like Mac for there reliability not so much for their sonic signature.  Yes the Coda is more extended than the Mac IMO.  I believe you eould be doing yourself a disservice by not looking at these older Classe Amps.  Another option is BAT VK655se with Gen3 Superpaks.  And as per Steve Bednarski of Bat Upgrading the caps to VCap Cutf's 4-.22uf's and adding 4- .1uf VCap Tone caps as Bypass to the superpaks is NEXT level.  I just sold mine (pair of Mono's) and went to the BAT Rex 500 with the same upgrades.  Truly next level.  Both the upgraded BAT's were the only 2 amps that bested the Classe's on B&W's.  The Amp that was a close #4 was my Krell Evolution 1 that I had paired with the Evolution 2 Pre.  A Gen3 VK655se sold 3 months ago for $5500.  Good luck on your Journey.

Thanks vip. I recently sold a Classé CA 2300 that I first paired with the B&W’s. They did mate very well. Detailed and smooth. Just looking for a different presentation I guess and was always told Mac was a natural match. Not sure I can spring for the monos, which I’m sure sound terrific. I will definitely look into the BAT’s. Worried about Krell support but always heard good things.  ✌🏻