Some thoughts on record cleaning machines and alternatives


As many of you know I have some experience using record cleaning machines.  This is not, repeat NOT, a discussion about what might be the best record cleaning machine.  Frankly I neither know nor care.  What this is about is the approach that you might take depending on your needs.  Let me start by first addressing the types of record collectors that might need to consider a record cleaning machine (RCM). 

The audiophile with priority on sound quality

The record collector with priority on the music itself with SQ of secondary importance

Obviously there could be some who are both, but to keep this organized, we'll deal with the two types separately.  The audiophile who is after best SQ possible should buy the best editions of recordings of interest and unquestionably will be best served with an ultra sonic RCM.  Which one?  I dunno.  From what I can learn all US machines achieve similar results sonically, but there have been issues with longevity of some brands.  I bought a HumminGuru, and one year in of moderate use my machine now needs a new water pump and solenoid valve.  Customer support is excellent, but longevity is a question mark.  By contrast I have been using VPI machines since 1986 and have never needed anything other than new brushes for scrubbing the records.  VPI machines are just about bullet proof.

The record collector, with a collection spanning decades and many old records of variable condition is more likely to be happier with a vacuum machine.  These are more suited to removing the grunge, finger prints and what not that old records seem to accumulate.  Also, old records usually have small scratches, wear from repeated play, or from being subjected ot an old or worn stylus etc and no RCM can fix those problems anyway.  So, the vacuum RCM is just as effective as the US for all practical purposes on old records.  Also, if you collect and clean old records in batches, the vacuum RCM is considerably faster in use.  For those who value their time the vacuum RCM has added appeal.

Next, I want to mention the fact that not everybody needs a RCM.  There are manual washing machines like the Spin Clean or the new EZ Washer from HumminGuru that do a terrific job and are more than adequate for the occasional record cleaning chore.  These should also be considered for the US RCM owner who runs into the occasional batch of old, dirty records because the US machines do not do as good a job of scrubbing off things like finger prints.  So, a first clean with one of these manual washers, followed by a run through the US RCM makes a lot of sense.

Saving the best for last, for those who want to take a deep dive, I want to recommend Neil Antinn's book, which is available for free on line and is the definitive resource on the subject.  Here is the link; thevinylpress.com/precision-aqueous-cleaning-of-vinyl-records-3rd-edition/

I hope this is useful and let me know how you do.

billstevenson

@richardbrand That goop deal sounds like the old wood glue revisited idea to me.  If you haven't heard of it, several years ago a guy came up with the notion of using Elmer's Wood Glue to clean records.  He even did a video.  Anyway, smear it on, let it set up and then peal it off and it pulled all the crap out of the record grooves.  Ingenious.  Like all simple solutions for a complex problem it didn't work.

I own a vacuum record cleaner and an ultrasonic machine.  For the VAST majority of records, a good cleaning and rinsing with a vacuum cleaner does the job and an additional ultrasonic cleaning does not appear to improve the sound.  But, once in a while a record that seems physically damaged will be improved by ultrasonic cleaning.  It is rare, but I have a few records rescued by such cleaning.  My recommendation would be to buy a relatively cheap vacuum machine, like the cheapest Nitty Gritty.  I prefer machines that only clean one side at a time and allow for manual spinning of the record for both the cleaning and vacuuming cycle.  I like to manually scrub the records with a back and forth motion rather than having the record just spin in one direction.  Make sure you have extra cleaning pads for the parts that contact the record as these do wear out.

I have seen a demonstration of of the Kirkmuss system which involves repeated scrubbing and ultrasonic treatment until the scrubbing cycle shows no evidence of residue remaining on the record.  This may be MANY cycles and more than half an hour for a single record.  It would be something I would only do for the most precious records in my collection.

@billstevenson 

That goop deal sounds like the old wood glue revisited idea to me

Similar in application, at least laugh.  The wood glue looks like PVA adhesive whereas the Record Restore gloop has surfactants and supposedly leaves the record positively charged.

It was the only thing I saw at the Sydney HiFi Show that had an A / B comparison. I was given a demonstration of a single jazz record where one track had been treated and the adjacent track had not.  I picked the audible difference, although there was so much jazz it was hard to pick the noise angry.  I did not see the record being processed either, so it was hardly scientific.

I bought enough to treat two sides ... will let you know the outcome in due course