Amir of ASR admitted 1 cable sounded better than the other. NOT CLICKBAIT

Who is Ned?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@kerrybh The cable debate is no longer about cables. Sure you get a lot of people that say "all cables sound the same". But there are a lot of the same people that say all dacs are the same, just 1s and 0s. And all amplifiers are the same, all amplifiers should be absolute neutral like the Hypex class D and have no voice of its own.

We know all of these to be false. Borderline ridiculous actually. Topping dacs somehow keep getting "better" despite being obsolete in measurements many products ago. Which makes no sense. And it's not just Topping. Hypex perfected the measurements but has released newer and "better" modules. The Hypex Nilai is also touted as being better.

The measurements for these products have far exceeded human audibility but somehow keeps sounding better after every new release.

Someone make this makes sense. 

"Who is Ned?"  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He appears to be the forum curmudgeon.

Now, get off his lawn!

@samureyex You're right! If a product already exceeds human audibility yet the newest model is .0002% lower distortion SOME people WILL hear a difference and must buy it. They stimulate their market into believing. This is total fantasy yet the marketing masters know how to manipulate this weakness to their financial advantage. 

These high end cable guys don't even give any numbers to back their claims.Avoid any factual scientific reasoning. All fantasy. "They don't sell the steak, they sell the sizzle". 

A marketing plan for Starbucks... they kept lowering the price but it gave a percieved image that they were selling 'cheap' product. They turned the company around by raising the price more than double!! People swore that it was now the most delicious coffee ever!  Nope, same coffee. Peoples perception of quality changes with price. It's a fact.

@samureyex You are right and I am not in the ASR camp. From my experience, cables, dacs, amps, etc., can sound different. At a certain level, different is not necessarily objectively "better" - that's a matter of subjective taste. With that said, I think Amir is a serious person and he is able to discuss differences of opinion rationally, without rancor. A lot of his followers sadly lack that ability as do a lot of folks on our side of the debate. I've seen people on this forum call him an idiot, which he is certainly not. These debates often end up in name calling, which usually says more about the attacker than the target.Maybe its happened, but I've never seen a single person switch sides based on the back and forth. So, other than whatever pleasure some seem to find in arguing, it goes nowhere.

 Which is why I say buy what makes you happy, you don't have to please anyone else. And don't worry about what someone else chooses to buy, or what they hear-or don't hear. If you actually think you can convince someone on the other side that you are right, that's the triumph of hope over experience.