Preamp output impedance, Amp input impedance and drive ratio? Pass Labs XA25


ChatGPT is trying to educate me on preamplifier output impedance and amplifier input impedance.  Have an XA25 amplifier which has 47k ohm input impedance.  Looking at many different options ranging from Galion Navy tube preamp to a Gold Note DS-1000 EVO DAC with analog preamp function and then going with the Pass Labs XP-12 preamp.  Galion Navy ~500 ohm output impedance, dividing 47,000 / 500 = 94 drive ratio.  Gold Note is 50 ohm giving you a 940 drive ratio.  Pass Labs is 24 ohm giving you 1880 drive ratio!   Is ChatGPT giving me good advice?  How much does this drive ratio effect sound quality?  

chauncey

You shouldn't be choosing your preamp based on impedance matching. It's the wrong thing to focus on IMO. Your amp's 47k input is sufficient to electrically match with any REASONABLY designed, properly working preamp. A 94 ratio and 1880 (or a million; whatever) are effectively the same for your application. Even a 20x ratio is perfectly fine. Your choice will come down to the usual suspects: sound signature, system synergy, feature set, price, aesthetics.

I'm sure it's possible to find a tube preamp with undersized output caps that rolls off bass into 47k, but I'd posit that's a very poor design. 

If you were into passive preamps (not TVC; resistor-based passive), those guys are generally happy with "just" a 10x impedance ratio. E.g. a 500 ohms source into a 5K passive into 50K amp.

You shouldn't be choosing your preamp based on impedance matching. It's the wrong thing to focus on IMO. Your amp's 47k input is sufficient to electrically match with any REASONABLY designed, properly working preamp. A 94 ratio and 1880 (or a million; whatever) are effectively the same for your application. Even a 20x ratio is perfectly fine. Your choice will come down to the usual suspects: sound signature, system synergy, feature set, price, aesthetics.

what he said

chat gpt doesn't help you when you don't ask the right question

 

That is great news I was worried that not pairing the preamp from the same manufacturer was screwing myself.  I have two placette passive linestages I kept because I liked them so much.