Thank you for all the helpful comments and suggestions. I guess I'll begrudgingly have the one repaired and then sell them and scratch Bel Canto off of my list of products I'd buy or recommend. I think as the OEM they certainly have the ability to either do it for free or for a modest amount especially as its a known problem. Choosing to charge top dollar is shortsighted and greedy imo. You'd think that they'd be thoughtful about how word of mouth / hobbyist referrals works but apparently they're not concerned. I do think that class d amps should last longer than 8 years and I also think these should have been fused (which they are not). The other option is I throw them out and buy a used Rogue Sphinx V3 for $900 and move on- I owned one before and it was great. There's a part of me that on principle doesn't want to send Bel Canto a dime. I've emailed them back nicely asking to reconsider the pricing and cited a recent example of Audio Research doing the right thing with my LS28Se that they couldn't figure out what the issue was and eventually offered a brand new mother board and power supply for just a few hundred dollars - which I thought was very fair and I did it. They were wanting to do the right thing for me and the brand, which is why I continue to own their gear and love it and recommend it. BTW- so far no one at Bel Canto has responded to my email back about considering trimming their price down.
Bel Canto REF600 m amp reapir costs- exorbitant ?
I have a pair of REF600m, I took them out of my system for a month and when I hooked them back up one is dead. No green light, no music. Oddly there are no fuses or breakers in the amp ! Google shows that there are known problems with the power supplies going bad on these. I sent them both in to get looked at- they emailed me today that yup, one needs a new power supply- for $695- and they suggest doing the other one too as it'll probably go next. $1500 to repair two amps with known issues - and the amps are only worth $2800 if I were to sell them. Looking inside the amp there aint much hardware, $700 a power supply sure seems steep- and I'm really stuck. Don't fix them and they're useless, fix them and have a fortune sunk into a pair that aren't worth much. It's like I'd have to spend $1500 to make them saleable for $2500 just to dump them. I would have expected either a free replacement for a known problem or a low cost flat rate repair. I was expecting perhaps $350 each amp. Am I unreasonable? Ignoring the fact that I don't think they should have failed at all, ever. Signed: Unhappy and not buying anymore Bel Canto.
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@ozzy62 I have no idea if he is, just Googled to see if the OP might have other repair options and reference to his website came up |
Sounds like you need to cut your losses and move on. As was pointed out, selling these amps, knowing what you know, would be hard for most of us to do. Paying the quoted amount to repair them is only worth it if you LOVED the sound so much and you were convinced nothing else close to the price could fill this niche. I would have a hard time putting much money into something with a faulty design destined to fail. The only way I would repair them would be on a DIY basis. That would require doing further research to see if there were just a couple of faulty components on the board which could be replaced. Not sure that is possible. Here is what Mr AI had to say:
Yes, it is physically possible to replace a thermistor on the power supply board, but doing so may not resolve the underlying issue. In switch-mode power supplies (SMPS) like those used in the REF600M, a blown thermistor is often a "consequential failure" caused by a more serious short circuit elsewhere in the primary side of the power supply. Repair Feasibility and Risks
Technical Specifications for Replacement If you choose to proceed with a manual repair, you must match the original specifications exactly:
Professional Support
These repair guides and product specifications focus on troubleshooting the Bel Canto REF600M’s power supply, particularly concerning thermistor failure and Hypex NCore module integration: |
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