To All Cable Deniers, 1 Very Simple Question.


There are people coming into cable threads and saying all cables sound identical. So I have 1 question for y'all.

Today, it is about power cords.

The end-plug, the metal part, the one you plug into the wall outlet. Without knowing the % of copper in the plug of your basic cable, can you absolutely certain say it sounds identical to a plug with 98% copper?

How about 60% copper plug vs 98% copper? Identical?

40% copper, Identical?

20% copper, Identical?

0% copper, Identical?

To wrap up, the question is very simple. If the copper % is different, would the 2 plugs still sound the same?

A bonus question, if a plug is 60% gold, will it sound identical vs a 98% copper?

samureyex

@laoman wrote:

This is a VERY silly response that adds nothing to the OP

What is so silly about hearing the effect of fuse holders, laoman? Everything makes a difference.

You seem to confuse me with a cable denier. Maybe you should read the thread before you start shouting.

 

To jump in re the Ohno casting of wire, it’s not the resistance variation that matters, it’s the effect of grain boundaries on impedance that matters, as it varies with frequency and affects phasing. Our ears are exquisitely sensitive to phasing with frequency.

Another possibility is that since impurities reside between crystals then zero crystal wire  (Ohno) has none.

If metal weight of the cable is important such as in speaker's voice coils, then the material, purity, conductivity , etc, all should be carefully selected. 

In case of the power cable, as long as thick enough to carry electriacl energy into audio sets, nothing matters. No matter what, the electrical energy flows w/o hesitation, the audio sets don't see any difference of the energy through all different cables. I can not say anybody stupid, if the anybody buys unnecessary expensive cable. Because I do not have any right to blame anybody as long as he/she spends (wastes, this is correct word) his/her own money.

But I am able to say to myself "I am very stupid" if I buy the cables!

"If the copper % is..., would the 2 plugs still sound the...?"  For my purposes, I reject the premise that power cord plugs make or inject ANY "sound" at all, much less any 'sound' that I need to be concerned with...at all.

@samureyex 

Why are you constantly denying the very premise of your thread?

"To All Cable Deniers, 1 Very Simple Question."


"@devinplombier and do you have an answer for this eight-grade question?"You’re one of those people who always jump into a cable thread and contribute nothing positive.

If copper is copper, and 2 cables have different copper % at their end. Would these 2 cables sound identical?

At what point would the copper % no longer sound identical?

Would a copper cable sound identical to an aluminum cable?

You people claim all cables are the same. Here we know for a fact the cables are indeed different in its copper %. You guys love to prove all cables are the same with your holy "measurement". Can you measure when do cables start to differ?"

"Also, something extremely obvious but also worth noting.

The purpose of this thread is NOT to find out  whether X, Y, or Z is better.

It’s purely about whether cables are identical or not identical (in sound quality)."

"To the people that say I’m attention seeking or people that don’t understand the purpose of this thread and the simple question being presented, here is my response.

Again, the question I posed is very simple but also somewhat deep. People that claim all cables sound the same would imply the % of copper content is irrelevant. In the initial post, I asked does 60% sound identical to 98% copper?

0% copper vs 98% copper? 

Gold vs copper? 

So why do I say this question is somewhat deep? Because each cable has 2 ends (2 plugs). Whatever difference there is, you have to multiply it by 2. Because 2 ends.

However, a system doesn’t have 1 power cable. Usually it has 3 power cables, 6 ends. So?

So.... 30% copper x 6

VERSUS

98% copper x 6

I read through the thread but no denier really answered the question, does the difference in copper content still make 2 different cables sound identical?

One thing worth mentioning is, a plug is essentially an extension of the wire, so that you could plug into the outlet. It is still a wire in a different form, a necessary form."

"...my aquarium needed my attention."

Is it falling apart because you completely neglected water changes?