Subwoofer recommendation and wisdom


So I have a relatively difficult room 19' x 19' x 9'. I have made a bunch of sound absorbing panels which made a massive improvement. I have worked on speaker placement and landed on the 5/8 ratio......5x from the back wall, 8x from the side walls. I use Harbeth 30.1 speakers on appropriate stands, driven by a Luxman L505 xII integrated. I am very pleased with the sound but sometimes wish I had a bit more foundation on the bottom end. I will listen mostly to classic rock and jazz. I would like to consider adding a sub, but not sure where to start. I don't want sledgehammer bass, I just want a nice, blended bottom end on my music. I think that is one of the only improvements I can reasonably and cost effectively make. Looking for recommendations on a sealed sub that would have a good chance of integrating well in my room.

My preference would be for a single sub solution. Thanks
 

stuartbmw3

OP, if you have plenty of options for placement, buy a quality sub and then down the line get a second one.  I say because of placement because one can be solid if you place it in the right spot (many times closer to the listening position) by doing the sub crawl or testing multiple points and testing with frequency sweeps.

If you don't have a lot of options for placement, buy two cheaper subs now.  That will make it so you can fill out the nodes more evenly.  One great sub in a poor location is not as good as two decent subs in poor locations.  Just dial in the peaks on each sub if you can.  Rhythmik F12 does have PEQ and I also recommend their subs but two will probably come in over budget unless you find used.  Best of luck!

Hello stuartbmw3,

Just brief response to your question as posed regarding sub recommendation Suggest that you check out Hsu (pronounced "shoe") subwoofers at https://hsuresearch.com.  I have enjoyed two of Dr. Hsu's subwoofers for several years and could not be more pleased with their performance. I want my subs to be tight, right and go low.  Oh and they will not break the bank. I've been to the Hsu facility in Anaheim, Ca and Dr. Hsu is always on hand.  If you call either Dr. Hsu (Electrical Engineering Phd from MIT) or Kevin will answer and they love to talk subs.

Enjoy the music

@bartsw 

I have a real life example where this simulation is wrong. Running two speakers full range in the front of the room + two subs in the back of the room will give you much larger and even coverage than simply using two subs. Four is better than two.

I don’t doubt you. My sub placement is constrained by room layout. The stereo is at one side of a great room. To put subs in the back, analogous to your situation, would require subs in the island of an open kitchen. Ain’t gonna happen. 
 

Given my constraints on the where to place the subs, simulations show that cutting the lows to the mains is actually helpful. This is why I said “The only way to know for sure is to place the subs in the real space” but simulations are useful until you can do so.

I will have the option to run my mains full range, and may in the end do so, but for now I need to take my best guesses as to where to put conduit. For that, I use simulations rather than intuition.

@soix ”Two subs are much better than one”

Just like two ears are so much better than one.

+1 Rythmik

Their sealed subwoofers are very good.  Although they are not talked about as much as REL and SVS, most of the reviewers like Nemopropoganda have reviewed them and all state that they are the best they have heard for clean and articulate bass.  I use them with Apogee Stage (quasi ribbon) speakers.