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Who Uses KIRMUSS Restoration System?

I met Charles Kirmuss recently at the NY Audio Show, Michael Fremer calls him a Propeller Head, I found him convincing,

https://kirmussaudio.com/ka-rc-1-ultrasonic-record-restoration-system/ 

WHO has/uses his system?

One option is to simply buy and use his spray to change the polarity of my solution while manually scrubbing

 

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmussaudio-refill-for-record-cleaning-spray?variant=21481583640636&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21210884586&gbraid=0AAAAADOxtycV5gvu5FafWNp5eVdWGP5vu&gclid=CjwKCAiA8bvIBhBJEiwAu5ayrN87JC_yhRwY4T3GJh1Q5UIM0_UBudZ-vxF8hDqm9edXlIS9RLKHLhoC0TIQAvD_BwE

 

another is to buy Upscale’s package for $1,199, the revised slots let you clean 3 12" LPs, 1 7", no 10" slot for 78’s, (default design is 2-12, 1=10", 1-7")" and the price matches the discounted ’show’ price

https://upscaleaudio.com/products/kirmuss-audio-in-the-groove-ultrasonic-record-cleaner-upscale-audio-edition?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=4ee2ce899&pr_rec_pid=2374425280572&pr_ref_pid=2382896889916&pr_seq=uniform

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I watched a long slow video, haven't seen this, but it is only 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgU9lzVfkug

 

elliottbnewcombjr
dogberry
967 posts
 

Since both the water and record have the same slight negative charge, water with or without a cleaning solution added in an ultrasonic’s tank with a record spinning cannot see any sonic action in the record’s grooves.

Is this man seriously suggesting that ultrasonic cleaners do not and cannot work because "water and record have the same slight negative charge"?

You don't have to be a herpetologist to see what kind of liquid is being sold here.

flemke
597 posts
 

The system is bunk. All you need is a $200 ultrasonic and a vacuum. There is no way to retore a record. You simply clean it. This guy has been confronted by actual scientists who put him in his place in about 60 seconds. 

jaybe
863 posts
 

Anyone can see with a UV light that US machines certainly are effective regardless of polarity.

Polarity is a moot point if you manually wash with something like a goat hair brush with bristles small enough to fit into the record grooves. 

 

elliottbnewcombjr OP
7,853 posts
 

@jaybe 

"Polarity is a moot point if you manually wash with something like a goat hair brush with bristles small enough to fit into the record grooves."

I think that's true, I just got curious, my spin tank is only for rinse, distilled water only.

I use these baby scalp brushes and scrub vigorously without concern

hifiguy42
390 posts
 

I'm guessing @faustuss also meant "prey".

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