UPS for high end gear


I plan to buy a Trinnov Altitude 16 surround sound processor and already have a madVR Envy Core.  These are computers and do not like power outages.

So, The Furman Elite-20 PFi that I have in place for power amps is not adequate as it is not a UPS.  UPS are also not adequate for power amps, thus the reason for both a voltage regular and an UPS (like a boat, just 'bring along another thousand").

Here are the alternatives, the CyberPower - CP1500PFCRM2U for $410, the Furman F1500-UPS for $2300 and the Nice MB1500 for $1400.  I never heard of the Nice brand before, but apparently it is the same internally as the Furman as they are both Furman brands.  It is also sold at Crutchfield, a reliable dealer I have used for many years.  The CyberPower is more standard consumer grade, while the Furman and Nice are for the high end audiophile market.

I could use a bit of feed back and experience from the group before blowing yet more hard earned dollars.

Thanks and Happy New Year everybody!

billsw

Adding a UPS is adding another source of noise.  I think the Furman, especially if it includes a voltage regulator, is exactly what you should be using for your entire system. 

The reason your PC wants a UPS is to avoid lost/corrupted data during a power outage, which would happen if for instance you were editing a document, or software was in the middle of making changes on the disk.  Your Trinnov and other such audio devices don’t suffer the same problems. The danger they face is the same as with the rest of your gear:  Surges and long term over/under voltages. 

Truth is there is no longer any TV, DVD player, surround processor or streamer which is not fundamentally a computer, with a CPU, storage and operating system.  They are designed with the idea of unexpected power outages in mind, though in the event of a power outage during a firmware upgrade things could get messy. 

Still, if you go down this route consider instead something like an EcoFlow or Goal Zero or Jackery LiFePO4 based generator.  Many models can be used as an always on UPS but have much better $$/Watt Hour ratios than computer based UPS. 

I agree. No UPS. Source of noise. If there is a power outage it may take a while to recover, but better then degrade it's performance. 

Ive had dozens of computers and streamers, and surround processors and never had a problem when there was a power outage. ``

 

I appreciate the feedback.  I will try again.

I am not trying to run the system when the power is down.  However, I live in an area with a lot of wind and trees.  With every significant storm the power will flicker.  The madVR Envy would routinely crash with this. This unit, surprisingly, runs Microsoft Windows.  This was truly limiting my use of the device.  Once I put in a UPS the problem was solved.  However, the UPS is an inexpensive unit which I intend to replace in any case.

 My other gear will have computer chips, but not run an operating system which will crash.

The Trinnov runs Linux, but will likely have similar problems as the madVR envy.

I have thoroughly investigated this.  A high end UPS with pure sinewave should not add electrical noise in non-battery mode.  It is necessary to get an inline UPS as double conversion will have a fan which runs 24-7. 

Also, the unit has to be something I can manage.  The Furman weighs over 70 lbs, and I will not be able to personally manage it in my rack.

So, I will go with the CyberPower - CP1500PFCRM2U, available on Amazon for $360, not a huge investment.  If I detect a problem such as a hum, I can plug the Trinnov into the Furman Elite-20 PFi  and use the UPS just for the  madVR Envy.

Again, I appreciate the feedback, which resulted in me thinking this through more carefully.

However, I live in an area with a lot of wind and trees.  With every significant storm the power will flicker.

Make sure your power is good to begin with.  Get a cheap voltage meter and monitor your AC and leave it in for a week

Furman wiht SMP also includes EVS, Extreme Voltage Shutdown, but if your power varies a lot day to day you may want to put a Furman regulator in front of it. I do this because the voltages do sag with the weather and my AC units turning on and off, along with my neighbors.  I live in an area that is prone to lightning and random power disturbances.