Why redbook over SACD?

I find the valuable points everyone has made in this thread regarding CD and SACD along with their advantages and disadvantages as physical media. I have read one of the drawbacks of streaming is that low resolution sources can be copied into a high rez format and from the listener’s point of view there is no indication on your streaming equipment to indicate that it is happening and reportedly often practiced by high rez steaming providers. Fool me once... I would much rather listen to one of our excellent local FM stations in the area than even bother with streaming in the first place.

I don’t think there has ever been anything wrong with the CD format just that the newer players, transports and DACs have ameliorated any of the previous sonic deficiencies the playback equipment had.

The main issue with marketing SACD is it was never intended to be a mass consumption format but was developed for archiving the incredible number of master tapes that are disintegrating in warehouses. Sony and the rest of the industry becoming very aware of the inevitable a long time ago, needed a means of doing the best possible flat transfers into a format that could sustain long term preservation. Not only that but they could possibly create masters using existing technology superior to the original one, maximizing all the parameters from one tape splice to the next. Obvious issues like azimuth, levels, equalization as well as tape degradation could be compensated for precisely, just as Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab admitted to doing several years ago. 

MOV has had it’s fingers in the Sony archives for decades now and has been producing superior reissues of titles not licensed to other reissue houses and at very competitive price points compared to those up until recently when tariffs came into effect.

They are known to use high quality metal parts left over from other mastering houses releases and you can also see direct evidence they use newly generated lacquers to create their metal parts. The engineering staff and the DMM mastering technology they use most of the time instead of laquears and barrowed metal parts, results in pressings second to none just using the standard vinyl formulas at their Record Industry factory in the Netherlands. I find it hard to believe the claim Sony is no longer directly affiliated with them but they still claim total independence.

I disagree that SACD was never intended to be a mass market phenomenon.  Both SACD and DVD-A were launched with the intention of generating a market for multi channel and enhanced 2 channel.  Record companies were clearly licking their chops at the thought of new sales of their back catalog.  Streaming didn’t exist when these new formats were developed.

  It was a big shock to audio companies when the formats were greeted with mass apathy.  People had come to prioritize convenience over sound quality.

  The value of preserving deteriorating master tapes was real, but it was an afterthought, not the primary reason for developing DSD

Some will say that a well designed CD only transport is a no compromise device that when coupled with a high quality DAC will sound better than most SACD players.

Couple that with the relative scarcity and expense of SACDs, and relatively affordable options from companies like Jay's Audio, foregoing SACD playback may make a lot of sense.

In my case, I have the best of both worlds. My streamer includes a high quality Redbook transport and I use my Oppo player as a transport for SACDs, with DSD output to my DAC. Both CD and SACD sound fantastic. 

"There is a simple process to rip DSD off SACD using old Sony blu-ray players ": not sure how 'simple' the process is with a special player, but the last one I read was - at least to me - anything BUT simple. Need to google again, but would like to also have my collection of SACD ripped; but then, how do I get the ripped file to the 5.1 receiver (the external DACs I have a 2 channel only)?

but the last one I read was - at least to me - anything BUT simple. Need to google again, but would like to also have my collection of SACD ripped

I will say that it is not easy for folks who are NOT technically inclined. But I have a word document created AND the USB key with the required files for the Sony BD-59. If you purchase this player on eBay, reach out and I can send you the Word document and the files. This will need a PM, as I need to send attachments and what to include in the USB key.

I have ripped 150+ SACDs till date; the most recent ones, this past December.