Seller Would Not Sell Because I had Zero Feedback. Why?


I tried to purchase equipment on CAM priced at $17K.  The Seller first wanted me to send a wire.  I said no, that I'd pay using paypal.  He said ok, but would only accept sent using the "Friends and Family" option.  Again, I said no explaining that I needed PayPal's Buyer Protection and that I would not send such a large sum across an international border with no recourse.  I explained to the Buyer Protection requires that payment be categorized as "Goods and Services" and that I would pay the 2.99% fee.   The seller would not take a credit card.  Ultimately, he said that he didn't want to move forward because I had zero feedback.  Further, I believe that PayPal offers Seller Protection to shield against nefarious buyers.  What am i missing that would make the Seller not want to do the deal based on my lack of feedback if the product wouldn't ship until the cash was in his account?   

The Seller did have an excellent feedback rating, but I wasn't about to send such a large sum across the border to a stranger.  Thoughts? 

patrickalston

1) no one wants to sell PP Goods and services support scamming buyers and lock up the payment.   We are not a business, this is a hobby.

2) no individual wants to deal with ANY tax form to file because of sold goods and services on PP.  

3) sadly, selling to or from Canada has always been problematic.   Customs can hold the package, and taxes due can come sometime well after purchase.  That was prior to new tariffs and scrutiny.  

4) a seller (me for example) will try to do it only if there is extensive positive feedback.  You have none, and sadly that is sometimes a red flag.

5) you want him to trust you with no feedback.  He offered to accept a wire transfer, yet you don’t trust him….does not add up.  Read his feedback.  Talk to him.  With a wire you know who he is for sure..  

6) of course hobbyists don’t take credit cards.  Even with friends and family you are likely paying with a credit card that offers you some protection…many do.

7) every time I have sold something to Canada, the recipient asked me to devalue the stated cost for customs / tax reasons.  Something off there.

 

 

 

 

The seller made the right move. Lots of scammers scamming nowadays. If the selller has a high feedback rating, what is the concern with sending F&F?

I won’t accept PP G&S. It goes like this, the buyer pays, receives the equipment, then tells PayPal they either did not receive it or it was damaged. They have the equipment and now the money is tied up. Like someone said, this s a hobby, not a business, the risk is not worth it.

 

That’s a lot of loot for either party to take a risk on.

Sounds like you both had mutual suspicions.

You both have valid points for terminating the transaction.

Agreed with the others.  0 feedback and wanting to make a $17k first purchase?  I wouldn't do that if I was the seller, either.  Feedback can take years to build up.  Plus, if the seller has great multi-year feedback, a wire transfer may not be that big of a risk for some buyers.