Bass Traps


Anyone familiar with these 2 types of bass traps?

Synergistic Research Black Box and PSI AUDIO AVAA C214

I'm in the process of implementing room treatment and have decided on 32x32x6 hollow felt box clouds stuffed with 6" Rockwool Safe and Sound acoustic insulation.  This will offer an NRC value of 1.25. These panels are manufactured with WAF in mind,  not that I actually need my wife's approval lol

But as far as controlling the bass, given the aesthetics of my room I'm limited in what I can and want to do. So I'm wondering how effective these two types of bass traps actually perform. Those huge passive black foam blocks and wedges won't work with the aesthetics of my room.  Let's not pretend they are anything but conspicuous and visually disruptive.  

Again I'm looking for feedback on the Synergistic Research Black Box and PSI AUDIO AVAA C214

Thanks!

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@kr4 

I was inquiring as to the advantages of adding the AVAA to a distributed bass array (DBA). When I reviewed Bob Katz' Stereophile article back in 2016 (https://www.stereophile.com/content/psi-audio-avaa-c20-electronic-bass-trap), it appeared that the improvements were on the order of 2 dB or less, which seemed small in comparison to my DBA's impact. Your article (https://www.stereophile.com/content/psi-audio-avaa-c214-active-bass-trap) seems to emphasize decay times and indicate the device(s) might still be of benefit. 

I recognize you reviewed a later design, but I get the impression the performance is virtually the same and it was primarily a cosmetic move, along with a control or two.

 

 

I have no first-hand experience with DBA or with the C20.  However, according to PSi, the C214 is more efficient (and well as better looking) than the C20 and one would have predicted a more pronounced effect than shown by Katz.  Nonetheless, my FR measurements with the C14s were consistent with Katz' and did not seem to correlate with the audible effects which were immediately apparent to me.  That motivated me to examine decay times.

@OP I have experience of both products. The Synergistic box, at best, does nothing. If you look at it in the context of the laws of physic, that's not surprising.

The PSI AVAA C214 is a completely different animal. It is highly effective and the effect is readily audible. It takes a little bit of time to fine tune placement and the gain adjustment. When dialled in it is very effective at smoothing out the bass and has consequential effects up into the midrange.

 

While I'm a happy custoemr of GIK, another good source is ATS Acoustics.  Also always worth checking the AM Acoustics Room Mode Simulator for help understanding your problems and tips on speaker/listener positions

I tried first one and then two Avaa C214's in my room.  They did not do enough in my room to justify the costs.  One of them I got on loan from a local audiophile and he had the same experience.  If I had money to burn I would have kept them as they did tighten up the lower boom just a bit but ultimately I did not find them revolutionary in any sense, but many people I have spoken with do find them to be must haves...so maybe it was me??