This hobby is for hedonists, not scientists

@stuartk Agreed, real NY bagels are not and do not remain cushion-like like single bake process preserved commercial imitations.  A real NY bagel of high quality ingredients without preservatives, cooked by a dual boil/bake process has density and a wonderful smooth crust.  While there is nothing like a hot, fresh, local NY shop bagel,  their resilience is noteworthy, back to near fresh goodness by careful timing for a few seconds in a microwave or toaster. No other baked grain staple is as resilient.  

I ain't no scientist and don't have enough of a budget to be an audiophile. I do like to tinker a little with old turntables. Not even a real technician.

My advice: Any time someone makes a blanket statement painting all audiophiles with the same brush, ignore it. Listen to those that have something helpful and/or constructive to say. 

Yeah well true I think we all do it for pleasure but hard to tell sometimes. 

What if you’re a hedonistic scientist who likes bagels?