@newton_john +1
Is ASR for real, or is it only for those sub $1k or even sub $2K?
I did some browsing on the forum and it seems like most don't own very expensive gears. Most of them own mostly sub 1K or 2K gears.
I recently ask about feedback on the Polk R700 but after about a month with no responds. I did a search "ASR Polk R700", with all but one poster which actually owned a pair. Most of them would point you to some measurement and some theoretical discussion but non actually own a pair.
I also looked at a few posts on budget speakers such as the Kef Q7 or Polk R600, but I didn't see any actual owners responding.
I don't mean to knock on them but ASR seems like a lot of hype but very little substance.
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I'm a retired scientist(polymer chemist) and large-data analyst. I spent my career creating and/or analyzing data to yield multivariate models that would adequately describe real world observations. I've visited ASR only for an amount of time to figure out what they are doing. I don't want to live in that world, never have. |
You reveal your bias by characterizing the experience of others as a "claimed experience." You're discounting the evidence before you've examined it.
No, it's not "inverted bias" - it's absolute bias pure and simple. Direct experience is a key part of the scientific method, yet you dismiss the empirical evidence as merely a "claim" because it doesn't dovetail with your belief system. So you're a measurementalist, not a scientist. |
Not at all! There is no bias in describing someone’s claims as exactly that, claims, other than a bias towards clarity in description. Nothing has been discounted. Of course direct experience is part of science that is examined with lenses like measurement. In audio science, for instance, preference curves for headphones were developed by asking people what they prefer (their claims about quality). See, this is why ASR is so valuable. It provides depth that helps overcome these broad generalizations and false dichotomies! |
You’re so biased that you don’t see the logical fallacy in your own argument. What you’ve done here is known as circular reasoning, or "begging the question." You’ve also discounted empirical evidence as a mere "claim," while elevating the status of measurement. That’s your belief system and makes you a measurementalist. That's fine as it is - the problem is that you pretend science is on your side. |
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