Speaker height...should known better


The other day I was listening to my system sitting down on my chair on my computer when all of sudden I had lower my head to glimpse a song on my screen when I realize, wait this sound much better. I have only lowered my head a few inches or 3 and all of sudden the music sounded way better. So much better to a point where it sounded coherent, phase timed and much more dynamic. I thought for a long time I have placed my Triangle BR03 tweeter at ear level. From the perception view from the listening position I would if thought it was at ear level. I was wrong. Currently my ears level is 3 inches above the tweeter(about the top of the cabinet). When I bought the speakers stands a few years ago, I got them new for my other speakers that were smaller. The current height on the stands are 28". I think what need now are at least 31". No wonder my measurements had a gradual roll off of the high end at around 8k at a couple of speakers I had. Now I am planning on getting higher stands to hear the difference.
highend64

Remeber that you can just tilt them.  I've had good luck using relatively inexpensive wooden stands from Butcher Block acoustics with adjustable feet. 

Interesting how different standmounts can be designed for different heights. I have Marten Parker Duos and their stands are 30" from the floor to the base of the speaker. My ears are level with the lower part of the bottom speaker, not the tweeter, and it sounds awesome, with a very tall, deep soundstage. I've tried sitting on padding to bring my ears up to tweeter level and that did not sound right at all.... I realize this is very unusual design, but it works! Their other standmounts, the Oscar Duos are more traditional ear/tweeter setup. 

I know this isn't possible for some speakers, but I found that laying mine horizontally instead of vertically resolved that issue for me. That way all drivers are on the same plane, and with the tweeters on the outside, the soundstage widens considerably. I tried many combinations of height, toe in, and spacing with a vertical orientation but found horizontal at about 38 inches above the floor is best in my room. 

It seems like he’s sitting in nearfield. He can tilt it, turn it upside down, do a 360 with it,  whatever, doesn’t take away from the fact it is a terrible design.....letting that very mediocre woofer get all the way down to 70, 60 hz and all the way up to 3600hz is just a bad idea....a lot got compromised w.r.t achievable fidelity. He may salvage something by bass managing, preventing that woofer from moving too much, rolling it off around 120hz to a subwoofer pair (needs to be a pair to help prevent localization with a high sub crossover of 120-ish hz)...still a terrible li’l box.

On the other hand, a Andrew Jones speaker (suggested as a replacement earlier) with a point source concentric driver, 4 inch mid covering 260 to 1800hz before hand off to the tweeter....A woofer taking over 260hz and under kept that mid driver very stress free.... Especially for near field, it seems like a very good idea, doesn’t it? point source n all (vd not a concern)....

I am sure this goofy triangle made all the rounds with the youtube reviewer promo club (the new apparently exciting kid on the block) and made a bunch of guys hop on it. 

 

@highend64 Triangle manufactures and sells 23.5" - 25.5" stands specifically designed for the BR03. So I would assume that’s a recommendation by them as to as to the tweeter’s proper relationship relative to the floor and the lister’s ear. If you have the room simply moving the speaker further away from you to improve the tweeter’s line of site to your ears and as @larryi says " That often does the trick and it is a cheap fix". You might also look at how you’re seated position corresponds to your ears distance to floor and how the relates relative to the tweeter’s axis. Maybe your seat is too high. A height adjustment if the chair provides one or find another piece of furniture around the house that’s more suitable.