Vibration Isolation for equipment using granite?


I recently visited a high-end audio salon and in the course of discussions with the owner, we discussed the large number of black granite 18x18" blocks he had against the wall. He said that he dealt with a granite retailer to make them from scrap granite pieces from kitchen installations, etc. He said that all equipment (amps, pre-amps, cd platers, DACs, streamers, turntables, etc.) all seemed to benefit from having them underfoot, even on quality equipment racks. It made me wonder if this was true or snake oil? I have my equipment (except power amp) on a Standesign equipment rack with each MDF shelf resting on small aluminum cones that "isolate" it from the steel frame. Question is, does this just add mass which would or wouldn't dissipate the vibration energy or does it work (maybe on another principal). And would sandstone or marble drink coasters, especially with cork soles) work better? Has anyone tried ay of this? Thanks in advance.

cooperdude6

When I’ve tried 1" slabs under speakers it made the sound brighter and harsher, which I didn’t like (yes, this was a lazy ham-fisted attempt with just hockey puck footers). Didn’t find it worthwhile under components either, and they’re a PITA to handle at that size / weight.

However HRS has used thin slices of granite in combination with dissimilar materials (constrained layer damping) to apparent success - but that’s quite different to a singular slab of granite. 

You should consider using it in conjunction with something like sheets of Herbie’s grunge buster or generic sorbothane to control the ringing. Full coverage (thin sheet) is much more effective than just footers.

I try to avoid speculative theory, but I believe the primary resonance frequency of the support is more important than the speed of propagation in the material. And this particularly true in turntables where the suspensions are tuned to different frequencies.

This gels with my experience - the interaction between support structure (rack) and turntable suspension / plinth is going to matter a lot more than anything else, for some systems. Those on concrete slab can get away with much more here. I’ve had turntable & rack combos resonate in the audible bass range (really bad), in the subsonic "woofer flapping" range (REALLY bad - most rumble filters don’t attenuate this enough), and in the relatively safe sub-2Hz range (SOTA). 

I used as mulveling said a sandwich of different materials with success...

For stability reasons i stop using springs , my actual speakers being small desktop Edifier...

But i go on again  with absorbing special properties(low cost) bamboo plate, sorbothane, granite plate and concrete block... This coupling /decoupling work well especially with the fine tuned right amount of concrete block over my speakers for damping them..

 

 

All great replies. Thanks to all. I guess everything may have it's time and place, but no solution for all applications. To my ears my system does not suffer from any ringing or excess vibration issues to warrant tinkering, but each situation is different. I was just curious if his approach is justified. Now I can understand a heavy slab on top of a component, but with ventilation considerations that is probably not practical.

Back in the day when I had a TT...30 yrs ago! Yipes!

The room I had to work with was NG.  Second floor apt in a house.  I could easily overpower the room with bass and cause the TT to skip.  So, I got the brilliant idea to get some marble headstones (scraps) and have them cut to fit.  Two slabs ~19X20X3 inches.  I also happen to have some sorbothane ~1" that was used to isolate Avionic gear from jet "fighter" vibrations.  Interesting stuff, actually feels like human fat.  Very compliant and then not!

Fat story slim.  One slab on the bottom then sorbothane then other slab then TT.

It completely stopped the problem I was having.  Much to the angst of the landlord downstairs. 

YMMV.  Just one guys tale.

Regards,

barts

 

Great Thread... Absorbing it in with intense Vibration..Some really good info here.