Record Cleaner won't clean?? Or is it me?


Hello,

I have a MUSIC HALL WCS-2 record cleaner... and I can't for the life of me get it to actually clean my records... I am using Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab - Super Record Wash and my process is as follows:

 

I spin up the Music Hall with some vinyl.... I pour a nice dab of the Sound Lab Record Wash on it, use a Carbon Fiber Anti-Static Vinyl Brush to spread it around, for maybe 10 or so rotations, and then I turn on the vacuum of the Music Hall until it is nice and dry. 

I put the record on my player, and I am rewarded with still a bunch of pops and dust and it's just a bit of a nuisance. 

Am I doing something wrong? Am I missing a step in the process? Am I too much a perfectionist and I should just live with a bit of the dust? 

How best to keep a 80% "Clean" record clean? So that I don't have to do this constantly?

 

Thank you!

R. 

whyrichard

I noticed a significant improvement going from wet-vacuum to UltraSonic followed by Vacuum, then air dry. Particularly the sonic so-called "black background". At detergent concentrations in record cleaners, with removing most residual water-detergent by vacuum, there is no need for distilled water. I calculated it out, and there are scattered molecules of detergent on the record surface, so we are talking a few Angstrom (10-10 m) here or there so a far cry from micrometers/microns/µm (10-6 m) resolvable by stylus. A difference of 10+4 or 10,000.

If you don't vacuum and just air dry, then a DI rinse *may* be advisable as the water evaporates leaving detergent (and residual dirt) behind. Have not calculated that and even wonder whether that is justifiable. 

Notice that the calculation in the record cleaning book are flawed as it goes from mass/weight to thickness without including density/specific gravity (6/0.5x12, particularly at value around 1 or 1/1=1). That's why those calculations are off by a factor of around 20K. I provided the back of the envelope math in a previous post. No need to sweat a few percent here or there when we are talking four orders of magnitude, give or take.

Additionally, tendency for static is highly location dependent. I have zero problems with it, don't have an antistatic gun or anything like that.

@oberoniaomnia

Notice that the calculation in the record cleaning book are flawed as it goes from mass/weight to thickness without including density/specific gravity (6/0.5x12, particularly at value around 1 or 1/1=1). That's why those calculations are off by a factor of around 20K. I provided the back of the envelope math in a previous post. No need to sweat a few percent here or there when we are talking four orders of magnitude, give or take.

The calculations are not off by a factor of 20k.  They are off by a factor of 10, and this was delineated in these posts:

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Hey OP

after reading the different post above, I concur that cleaning with a brush then vacuum clean is the better process. I came to that conclusion myself as that procedure gave me the best results. Brush and less vacuum

@antinn 

The sooner everybody adopts the metric system, the better!  Then we'd only have to worry about the position of the decimal point ...