You are there vs. They are there


So what is the difference?  Do I have it right?

You are there: the vocal and soundstage starts at the plane of the speakers

                         and recess backward behind the speakers plane.

They are there: The soundstage is forward into the room with the vocal

                          reproduction in your room.

 

Which would you prefer?

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@mylogic 

I believe we are in agreement. I feel like we are a little too hang up on the fidelity part of Hi-Fi. It’s like trying to pick a faithful painting portrait of Abe Lincoln but we have never seen him in real life. It will be hard to know which one resembles him the most. Obviously, some of them would be rejected off hand: like Abe with dog ears or with a chicken beak or Abe with a tail. But there would be a fair number of portraits that would be plausible. Which one is true to the original would be hard to determine. At the end of the day, we will have to pick the one that pleases us the most. Because we are dealing with music reproduction and music as an art, we have to allow ourselves some freedom to choose based on preference to our ears even though we might stray from the supposed original. We also have to keep in mind, that our rooms have a lot to say about the presentation. Take care.

@spenav Exactly. Why should we hang ourselves up over this false notion we must adhere to some unknown reference. Now I can accept we have reference for things like timbre with acoustic instrument, but sound stage/presentations. Do whatever is pleasing to you.

Seems the best one can do is to optimize speaker placement and then hope for great results in "They are here"  and/or "You are there"

@kennyc  Optomize…. Optomize… Optomize is the best one (man) can do

 

Optomize…. Is to OPTOMIZE

A great beat going where?

If you care to dare

Optomize…. optomize until….

They are here, or YOU are THERE
 

Can anyone hear a great catchy song opportunity here?