JL Audio hifi subwoofer match for my system

@upstateaudiophile During a short experience we were surprised by how the JL A.R.O. F113’s output stature closely matched a DD-18 Velodyne...so much for driver size.

On the other hand we eventually bypassed the single frequency A.R.O. and used the Velodyne multi parameter Optimization with the JL providing an enormous improvements across many aspects especially when adding +dB’s below the 20Hz region.

What is your impression with Martin Logan’s, is it (ARC PBK?) compared to the JL’s auto only peak limiting D.A.R.O. V2?

@m-db that’s good info you provided. I used ARC Genesis and PBK. On JL I did professional in home mini-dsp as well as DARO bypassing the mini-dsp to compare.  The ML setup crushed the JL one. And we’re talking a 3-4k setup vs like 11k. It was shocking yet I know we did the setup correctly and I did it again and again to confirm. 

https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2727176

@upstateaudiophile - Im coming in later here - but I noticed your post above regarding the JL Audio F's subs. 

I'm preparing to add 2 to my Wilson Watt/Puppy's using the Wilson ActivXO crossover, but this is the first I'm hearing this level of disappointment in them.

Is there a majority opinion on here that JL arent as good as many subs 1/3 their price?

thanks'

@inthesticks 

I had asked people on here about JL Fathoms and was told by so many people to not do it due to poor build quality. I always wanted JL and etc and did it anyway. Wow, what a waste of my money. 1 was dead on arrival and buzzing, the other one could not get dialed nicely despite using REW and professional integration. Thankfully my dealer worked with me to return them. My Martin Logan Dynamos pair perfect. Sometimes cost isn’t the end all for a system.