Kirmuss users, what do you find?


I bought a nearly new Kirmuss record "restoration" system from a widow of an audiophile. 


I mostly wanted it for the machine, but had to try his method just out of curiosity. 
I followed the instructions, apart from the "Aftercare" section, which was influenced by the AudioPhile Man review (pt 2)


I got YUGE globs of stuff on my stylus after playing just 1 side of a "restored" record. OK, maybe I’ve not cleaned it enough? The record went back in for 2 more cleanings with the surfactant and ultrasonic bath for 5 min each time. Still ended up with a ball of something on my stylus. 

I next used my other method, which was to scrub up a different record with some Audio Intelligent #6, 5 min ultrasonic bath, then dried with the Record Doctor. 
Just a touch of lint (probably airborne that landed on the record) after 1 side. 

I will say the sound of the record was noticeably improved with the Kirmuss chemicals, but I feel that this substance is NOT being completely removed with the ultrasonic bath. 

Any users out there that can share their experience?  

traudio

I bought one awhile back and thought it worked as advertised BUT you had to do ALL the steps per the instructions. Like 12-15 steps! I used it for under a week but it was such a PITA to use and took sooooo much time that I sold it very quickly

 

I have had a Kirmuss machine for 5 years.  I have found the best way to use it is to use it like every other ultrasonic cleaner.  Run it through the 5 minute cycle and then dry it.  I forget about all of the other steps. I use a vacuum machine to dry the record as it is quick and thorough.

There is no way any additional stuff should build up on your stylus after cleaning the record.  In cases where the record is in particularly bad condition, perhaps with mold or something, I have found that cleaning the record once, then playing it, then cleaning it again gives good results.

Playing a record, especially with a line contact stylus that gets deeper into the groove than a conical stylus, can be part of the cleaning process.

I have a Kirmuss machine and also had the problem with globs of junk on the stylus when I followed his procedure to the letter (including studying his Youtube video).

I decided the whole Dr. Kirmuss thing is B.S. and overly cumbersome. Now I use the Kirmuss instead with Tergikleen as a prewash for soiled used records, followed by a DW rinse in my Degritter II. That works far, far better, and never causes build up of any kind on my stylus. I now only use the Kirmuss machine that way. 

Not to mention his cleaning fluid is ridiculously expensive. I never used all the machine came with originally, but I knew I was never going to pay the $100 or so for the small refill bottle.

Lubachi,

All my records are in great shape, or I get rid of them.

Cart is a Haha ML.

Dwette,

Tergikleen with a DW rinse is what I was planning to try next, then the ultrasonic.

I have 2 Spin Clean machines and can load each with those 2 liquids.

BTW, how do you quote people here? Never could figure it out.

Traudio, you cannot quote people on this platform in the conventional way that most forums are set up.  I agree that is a bit of a nuisance.

What I have trouble understanding is, if you are just cleaning a record with an ultrasonic cleaner, whether it is the Kirmuss unit or whatever, there is no way the unit can add gunk to your record.  Water and alcohol cannot physically deposit anything on your record.  I am not sure what is going on with the cleaning process in your case but I would be hesitant to blame the machine.  Just saying...