@beetlemania. Sorry for the delay in responding. The Treos are quite good at portraying round, live instruments in space. The sound gets out of the cabinet and lives in the room. Which is wonderful and one of the qualities I love about Thiels. Compared, for example, to a pair of Harbeths I heard recently, that sounded nice, warm and relaxed, but boxy. But the Vandys tilt to the lean side, lacking in the upper bass-low midrange perhaps. So they don’t give me the weight, authority that I want, especially at the lower volume levels I am listening at more and more. Sometimes I just want more of the belly of a sawing double bass.