R2R next? Don't like ESS


Can you recommend a good 'starter' R2R dac?  I've been through a number of ESS Sabre dacs and they're not for me.  IMO, they lack a certain transparency that I'm after.  Point of reference:   The *only* dac that I've heard that is decent to my ears is a 10yr old Maverick Audio D3 w/ Sparkos OpAmp swap.  *This* was great.  Alas, I sold it because I thought I could do better with something newer.  

Geshelli's offerings have piqued my interest - the J3 in particular - but it's an ESS chip.  Wondering if I should make the jump to something R2R - Denafrips, Broder Patrol..  thoughts?

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Another +1 for the Schiit Bifrost 2/64.  I originally purchased the Bifrost 2 before the /64 upgrade, but I did upgrade mine when it came out; I was quite pleased with the product.  Recently, however, I purchased the Gungnir 2, well under $2K, for my main system and it made a further improvement in its sound reproduction quality.  I have "retired" the Bifrost 2/64 to my office system, a Mac Mini M4Pro, NAD integrated amplifier (356BEE), Infinity Modulus satellites (ca. 1992), and DefTech Supercube 6000, and it does superbly.  Schiit offers a trial period, with a restocking fee of five percent.

I know Eversolo gets a lot of love but , before buying  type "eversolo problems" in your Google AI search bar....   They fail miserably at firmware support.   No USB output on an A6 since June with no resolve.  This was a unit that worked fine for 11months 

They did something in the last update where it now occasionally recognizes the DAC but still no sound.   That's at least 4 updates since reported.  No response from Eversolo just days before warranty was up.   They are throw away electronics should something go wrong after warranty. 

Buy an Innuos if you have a large music library.    

Our club did an informal shoot out between the PS Audio Driectstream Mk 1 and the Holo Audio May KTE.  Output level matching was a little challenging but after we got that dialed in, the actual sound difference between the two was negligable.  I slightly preferred the Holo but for the price difference of picking up a used PS Audio over a new May, it was a no brainer.  I would get the PS Audio and never look back.  

I’ve owned dacs from many brands including Denafrips, Line Magnetic, Topping, Questyle, Electrocompaniet, Eversolo, Parasound, Musical Fidelity, SMSL and Chord. Multiple models from some of these brands. And I’ve experienced/heard many more than those. 

My favorite among these has been the Topping E70 Velvet, a $400 DAC that can hang with $1500+ DACs all day and better them in many cases. One of its filter settings is filterless, so in a sense it is like you get multiple different DACs in one. You can have that old-school filterless sound with a rolled off top end or ultra-resolving and extended, or something in between. This is one of only two DACs I’ve owned where the filter differences are quite profound (assuming you have a highly resolving system). 
 

If you don’t want a “Chi-Fi” DAC as it goes, the Electrocompaniet ECD-2 is exceptional for the used market price.