A.I. music

Why not discussing and reading about A.I. ?

Why coming after my post without even adressing their content ?

Why my invitation to discussion is considered useless ?

have you a personality problem ?

I consider personal attacks the only posts that are sucking the oxygen here...

No poster with a real content is useless...

If you are not able to read a thread where someone can contribute more than you then dont open a thread about interesting and difficult matter ...

Anybody can object and propose his answers to my proposition...

I just propose a deep and free book new and very deep on the matter. Instead of thanking me you claimed that i suck the oxygen around your ego and you then  push the thread in personal attacks..

Do you know how many times you did it to me ?

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ban me forget my posts and keep silent ...if you are unable of any philosophical deep discussion...

 Take a poll and ask other people if my posts are useless here if the information annoyed them  and i will immediately erase all of  them ..

Take the poll ...

@8th-note I have to disagree with hour premise about all new music is rehashed from others. I’m no scientist but I have long been fascinated by how musical artists come up with their music. I’m talking about truly creative artists not pop artists with which I would agree with you. Without delving into consciousness or the phenomenon, if you listen to interviews with these people they will say that the ideas or at times entire pieces of music just come to them, sometimes in dreams. This mimics some esoteric scientific theories that come to scientists the same way. We don’t understand what that is or how it works. I posit we know precious little about human consciousness. Why are some conduits of information and others not? I find this fascinating and I applaud those creative artists who share their “downloads” with us.

I concur with your post opinion...😊falconquest

Most litterature about creativity sources point toward altered states of consciousness , as NDE, dreams, Nature meditation and walks, even dialogue with god or goddess, in the Grothendieck case and Ramanujan cases which are not isolated cases...

The molecule of benzene was dreamed in his geometry ... «The nineteenth-century German chemist August Kekulé claimed to have pictured the ring structure of benzene after dreaming of a snake eating its own tail»

@8th-note I have to disagree with hour premise about all new music is rehashed from others. I’m no scientist but I have long been fascinated by how musical artists come up with their music. I’m talking about truly creative artists not pop artists with which I would agree with you. Without delving into consciousness or the phenomenon, if you listen to interviews with these people they will say that the ideas or at times entire pieces of music just come to them, sometimes in dreams. This mimics some esoteric scientific theories that come to scientists the same way. We don’t understand what that is or how it works. I posit we know precious little about human consciousness. Why are some conduits of information and others not? I find this fascinating and I applaud those creative artists who share their “downloads” with us.

This is why I have committed invest in an analog setup and get high quality vinyl records now. I know that in future the way we access digital music will be very different. Depending on your social status or score, you might not be able to listen to some genre or tiles. Let alone not being able to have access to music services all together.

@falconquest I stand by my opinion that there has never been anything truly original in music composition. Going back to the great classical composers, they often used folk melodies in their compositions and they built upon religious music that was performed in churches and monasteries. Yes, it got more complex, but it was not completely original.

I don't want to get too far into the weeds regarding music history but there has been a steady progression of composition for thousands of years, culture by culture, that has slowly and predictably built upon what came before. The music traditions of every culture are remarkably consistent with the musical development of that particular culture. For example, before there was cultural interchange, no East Indian person woke up one morning and wrote a classical composition in the style of Bach or a blues song in the style of Muddy Waters. Nothing like this has ever happened. But once people hear music from another culture they start to incorporate elements of that music into their own and they create something "new."

"Genius" has been defined as relating the normally unrelated. Jim Winey, the late designer of Magnapan speakes, had his revelation for speaker design while bonding two magnets together and he looked up at the perforated ceiling tile. Bingo! Flat Panel Speakers! What may seem like a completely novel idea always turns out to be a synthesis of other information.

In the book I referenced the author tells the story of teaching an A.I. to play the Chinese game of Go. It was strongly believed that no computer could ever defeat a human at the game. The computer not only beat the Chinese Go Master but it came up with a novel strategy that nobody had ever devised in the 2500 year history of the game. Now we are waiting to see if an A.I. robot can fold laundry.