Speakers and amplifiers show audiophiles are confused.

donavabdear, this is the second thread I've noticed where you tell audiophiles how confused they are.  I don't question your experience in professional circles, but this is a hobby.  Audiophiles do audio for pleasure.  The proper way to do the hobby is the way which provides the greatest pleasure to the individual audiophile.  Just because many of us do not do audio your way does not mean we are confused or that we are doing it wrong.  Lighten up, man.  Let us have our fun as we choose.

@kingharold Ya know I think you're right, I do need to lighten up. I really got the wrong ideas about audiophiles I now think it's not about the search for the bet sound it simply a hobby like you said, there are so many obviously silly things audiophiles do but I'm now realizing that's ok.

Today I asked a super duper expensive cable company how their cables make a difference when the power gets to the house then out of the wall socket via a small connection with an Edison plug then connected to an amp then to a fuse then PC tracers or internal cables that aren't near as good as the cable you're selling? He said I have no idea I'm an engineer (for the company) doesn't seem possible to me. We laughed and I said thanks for the honesty. I guess that was an audiophile moment. Thanks for being kind @kingharold 

@kingharold Also here at AXPONA it is clear there is a world of BS that the marketeers feed to the people, some of the most expensive systems sounded horrible and it wasn't the rooms they were huge and sounded fine. There were million dollar systems that were so bad I wondered if they were a joke, really. One smaller system obviously had something wrong with it at about 2k it was probably 18db to hot clearly a problem. I mentioned it to one of the people who worked there and he said he knew but that's how the boss wanted it, so strange. There are companies taking advantage of audiophiles but I'm not going to gripe about it anymore because I'm turning over a new leaf. (I hope)

some of the most expensive systems sounded horrible

and some of the less expensive systems can sound great. That is the thing I like about this hobby, the "hacks" where you can leverage your investment. Sitting on my porch yesterday with just an $800 pair of deftech active speakers (the W7) which are basically 8 inch cubes and having them sound HUGE because of the tri-polar design offering accurate sound that’s widely dispersed, in the worst conditions, a porch surrounded by picture windows is just fun. The speaker has an intelligent design that allows it to sound much more expensive in a terrible room, even streaming spotify. That just makes my day:

@donavabdear I have been to AXPONA a few times, and I heard some expensive Focal speakers that sounded terrible the first time and very good the second time I heard them, so there are a number of factors that can cause this, not just the room or the equipment, but sometimes the people setting it up.