Those who seek to deny access to information


Like many/most here, one of the main reasons I frequent audiogon is to gather information. I am looking for ways to enhance the enjoyment I get from listening to music on my system. The information most valuable to me comes from those who share their actual experience with products that I am interested in, but have not heard in my system.

The audio community is a diverse one, with many opinions, ideas and perspectives. Many of them differ from mine, and that is fine. Those who disagree with me are free to make posts and start threads about whatever they choose. This doesn’t bother me, I am free to choose what I read, and what I don’t.

What does rile me up up is deliberate attempts to deny me (and others) access to the information that I value. There are some here who repeatedly seek to disrupt, sidetrack, derail, and shut down conversations about topics and products that trigger them. They do not contribute any useful information or experience to the discussion, and make disparaging comments about things they have zero experience with. They are bullies who mock, ridicule and provoke those who use, make and sell certain products. They seek to stifle any discussions about, and especially positive opinions of, the products and people they clearly have a vendetta against.

They can start their own threads, and talk about what a fool I am all day long, I don’t care. Their deliberate and repeated attempts to deny myself and others access to the information we value, however, are intolerable.

tommylion

OP @tommylion : it looks like your thread went sideways, attracting exactly the people you were referring to. They immediately flocked to this thread. The usual snake oil screechers, and general purpose mentally unstable derranged psychopaths & internet trolls.

And this:

Audio-gone

From the snarkiest of them all, from the dude proudly and defyingly displaying lamp cord as speaker wire on his GoodWill® Pro MKIII speakers on the very profile picture --- That is their ultimate goal. Burn it to the ground. I can assure you it was not a typo. It was deliberate, in a snarky way.

 

 

 

 

 

Why does anyone think this site is exclusively for people who proclaim "well I heard it so it must be so"? What’s wrong with lamp cord? Can you show that other cables are capable of doing a better job? Other than it cost more so it must be better? I don’t care one iota what anyone thinks of me or calls me on this site. Nobody is trying to "deny access to information" quite the contrary some are saying think before buying, and don’t accept some off the shelf explanation YouTube video about EM fields, energy propagation and quantum interactions, ask what the hell does that have to do with audio signals when even competently insulated "lamp cord" or basic twisted pair isn’t affected by them. Get a grip, this is hobby right,  for those interested in high fidelity systems or is that high cost systems?

Yikes 😱 they are here from both extremes. 
 

I like to follow the science and engineering. Then there are times I question it all. Like when I fly in a helicopter, watch a Nat Geo show on the animal kingdom in Australia, or read a thread here. 
 

If it did not work for you fine then move on. If it did share it here and damn the deniers.  

What’s wrong with lamp cord?

Nothing wrong. It does the job. What is wrong is going after the people who post about their experience with something more than a lamp cord, only to get ridiculed by you know who, the very lamp cord crowd, and be called stupid, gullible, audiophools, a "fool and his money departed" etc. etc.

Can you show that other cables are capable of doing a better job?

I do not have to show it to you. I can only post my experiences for ME. You figure it out for yourself, or don’t, and keep posting why it does not work, cannot possible work. You see, this is a hobbyist forum, people share their experiences, their own experiences. Freely. With no fear of being ridiculed. They don’t have to prove anything to YOU.