Why I'm not adding a sub to my 2-way monitors for music


 

I've updated my blog post with more data, more analysis and the conclusion that in my particular case I do not need a subwoofer.  I encourage everyone who is on the fence about adding a subwoofer or not to read and comment.  I think that either way you'll be able to make more informed buying and configuration choices.

Everyone's situation is different but I hope the post helps you get to the right conclusions.

 

erik_squires

Hello,

I use two of the  JL Audio F110 subs with the JL Audio CR1 crossover. My speakers are rated down to 25hz at -3db.  I am one of those goofballs who use their two channel system as part of the surround system. Both my two channel system and the CR1 crossover have home theater bypass so I can use the JL Audio subs with both systems. In my room which is 24’x13.8’x8’. I have two REL T9 subs which I will add later. I mostly listen to 2 channel split between tt and my DAC. It all sounds really, really good. I have found that the subs make everything sound more real because bass adds dimension and space because it enhances or lets you realize time. I sometimes like to listen at low volume. By adding the subs it lets me get great dynamic range. I know subs are heavy and you don’t want to pay shipping to try them out. If you live in the Chicagoland area this store lets you try before you buy. 
holmaudio.com

This is a great way to see if subs can make a difference. I know everyone has their preferences. By demoing in your home you can make up

your own mind. I hope this helps. 

Dear @erik_squires  : I understand your point. Now the side advantage of subs is not only to go deeper in the bass range but with a better quality levels. Anyway your needs do to that 5.1 makes the subs a hard call but I think you will solve it.

 

R.

 

 

Dear @hshifi  : I understand your need too and I know very well the well regarded JL and Rel subs that hmore marketing that realities. What am I saying with realities?, example the JL THD is over 5% against the 0.5% in the Velodyne and Rel is not way better than JL in that very critical regards. So you have land down there to improve MUSIC and HT enjoyment the better.

 

R.

 

@erik_squires,

Yes, I was kind of hoping that I could find one like Nano in the used market but no luck with it. Good news is that MiniDSP just announces (3 days ago) they are going to release MiniDSP Flex/digit which is basically a stripped down of SHD (without streamer) for sub $500 and allows you to process up to four channels with digital out. Still expensive relative to Nano but much cheaper than SHD.

@rauliruegas 

JL really IS too expensive, it also has some of the best room integration software out there, so it's a mixed bag.  I mean, I'm too cheap, but room integration software matters and if the cost was the same I'd trade distortion for proper integration.