Best speakers around $130k?

well come to find out, Von Schweikert, dumped the 4 witha FR driver and has gone 100% all ACCUTON Ceramic drivers,,,,hummm game changer, usinga 5 or 6 inch ceramic as dedicated midrange.

That alone aint gonna fly with me.

My tech says avoid all/every midrange drivers.

I agree

2nd

4 ohms impedance.

Gotta be 8 or no deal

last but most critical importance. db sensitivity,,and the VS55's,,,,come in ,,LOW

88db sens.

I just dumped my Seas Thors(miserable 87 dbsens) as the shootout with a cheap chinese FR(90 db sens, Diatone, garbage) was bloody, the Thor went down EVEN before he had a chance to EVEN reach for his gun.

Bloody I tell you

If a speaker is not 92db sens on very lowest , and to 95db at the highest. I pretty much, in fact dismiss it.

My new tweet to avvive, Seas clone says 92db, if its really in real time 90db, its ok, tweeters can get a breat.

But never a tweet at 89db, = trash.

And yes I have the Jadis Defy, true 100 watts, can esaily drive a 4 ohm, low sens speaker with ease anda breeze.

But you lose finesse.

Higher sens speakers (92db+) sound better = higher fidelity. The Thors were in fact fidelity but at a lower level, 87db sens.

Speakers to qualityb for HIGH fidelity is not such a simple EQ.

THere are certain parimeters that have to be met, even before we can begin the evaluation on the actual voicing.

 

To evaluate a speakers level of fidelity,, its a not such a simple trask.

Although it does not take me long being in a speakers prescence to make a immediate call on if its worth the demo, = does the speaker actually havea ticket?

Or did it try to dona fancy cabinet, witha big name, highly promoted, well known, popular, famous even

None of these things concern me.

Just plop the speaker down, behind the curtain, I’ll tell you if it has flaws and what are the weaknesses to prevent it from being ~~~Classed~~ as a true ~~High Fidelity Speaker.

(Philips lingo back in 1980 on their fantastic 475 2 way, 473 3 ways, also the Grafyz SP10 has the same AD162 magical tweeter)

 

WE need standards, reference speakers.

WE need fair, unbiased, no snakeoil, straight shooting, TRUTHFUL , evalutaions and **opinions**. based on old seasoned experiences.

 

Good luck finding someone that will call the shot as the speaker REALLY sounds , w/o *bias* pun intentional.

The Thors qualify as such a reference, as do all Troels Gravesen speakers.

When it comes to speakers I show no mercy, no forgiveness. 

 

 

Besides, VS55 at $100k-$325K

states 

4 ohms. 

But lets guess the 4 drivers are all 8 phms a  piece.

8 ohms x 4 drivers  does not = 4 ohms, something less than 4, maybe 2-3 ohms

= not tube friendly, at least not a  SET or DHT PP.

VS's are for big ss amps. 

Lets all stay on the same page. 

and heavy. My DL Duo's , tops 30 lbs. 

VS's 55's  mids are not even going to come close to the DL Duo's. 

PLUSSSSS

Be Tweet,

My tech strongly advises I avoid the Beryllium dome tweeters.

The VR55 misses on every single point of consideration.

Yet read the reviews, **Stunning,, the best, UNREAL,, wowo factor off the charts,, MUST Have, ,,Beats my Wilson Reference,,,..,, competes with all speakers over the $100k tag......***

 

Thats all these big hefty  speaker loaded cabinets are, a  bunch of tweets, midwoofers, woofers,,, nothing more nothing less.

My Dual FR will soon this week!!!!!!!! have dual tweeters,,, YT vid comming your way./My tech utterly despises and hates, deplores these YT vids,, as **complete garbage** we have decided to agree to disagree,

You do  realize  that techs dont know everything. 

Science is both a good and has a down side. 

tweeter, 2 midwoofers I got that + a  bit of woofer thrown in , got that, UNDER $1k, 30 lbs at most

 the new xover types, 200 lbs - 600 lbs each cabinet, not the pair, EACH , a  bit more bass, $100k-$300k.

This aint rocket science,  its more  common sense.

Goes back to the old saying

Ya can't buy fidelity

aint for sale folks. 

Okay, I currently own Legacy Focus (98db 4 ohm/low at 2.8 ohm) and Signature IIIs (94db 4 ohm). They are easy to drive using EAR 890, custom 125 watt Class A/B and Dynaco (highly modified) ST70 tube amps and the 35 watt Yamaha CR620 receiver. I intend to purchase the Von Schweikert VR9SE Mk II which has many drivers, 4 way crossover per transition with 94db 6 ohm with built in sub assistance amp (and 2/3rds less than the new cost). The Ultra series and VR 55 require more power due to reduced efficiency and lower impedance. The VR 35 for export is relatively easy to drive. VR also has Endeavor E-5 MkII with is 91db and 8 ohms. 

The Ultra series are the finest speakers I've ever heard, but in very expensive systems ($1 million).   The only time my wife said that's the sound I want was hearing VS at a show (as do many reviewers in the past four years).  A good taste of that is had by my friend's system I mentioned at under $15,000 system used.