AUDIO RESEARCH VS VTL

Jeff which one of your experiences with Lyra are we talking about?

The one where they are JUNK shrill bright ect.
Or
The one where the Lyra Delos sounds amazing!

Hard to follow the way you flip flop on things. Not that your posts are anything to follow, more of a comic relief.

Sad part is some folks who like to be helpful around here actually still take your "posts" seriously.

Including one Mr Johnathan Carr

BTW did you ever get around to apologizing to him for having your little fit because "you" couldnt get a cartridge to sound the way you wanted it to not because there was something wrong with the design or the catridge itself?

Eh...Don't matter, he has shown himself to be a stand up individual who goes the extra mile to help those who were willing to give his design a go.

Im sure he will be around for the next discussion to see how he can contribute.

Unfortunately, there is no "king". It all depends on all your associated gear, room and preferences.

I’ve never owned an AR amp, only a pre. I have owned the MB-125 (first gen) and absolutely loved those monos. Sold them, missed them a few years later, and bought the first gen MB-185.

AR customer service was fantastic. 

i got a solid three paragraphs from Jonathan Carr on ideas to improve my Delos. My ARC Ref5se just crossed 5k trouble free listening hours…magic… And ARC answers the phone….

Most probably order a Etna - Lambda next week for the SOTA in the reference system.

Audio full of good people

Now IF Oyaide….WTF

I try avoiding these conversations but both of these companies have crap service and the ARC GS150 I tried was not that great and for the asking price a flat out ripoff.  I had MB185 signatures long ago that couldn’t maintain bias so I moved on from them.  Asking which brand is better is a loaded question especially for these forums that seem to bring out the nasties from some of us on these forums.  Brands like VAC, Quick Silver and a few other offer some really good values on the used side for high power tube amplifiers.