Lay Off the Newbies!


I always try to keep my posts constructive, but there is something that regularly goes on here that I think is detrimental to our hobby - A newbie has a simple question and a bunch of neurotic geezers (of which I include myself) jump on the guy with a million rules and rituals he must follow to achieve his goal, which ends up discouraging the guy right out of hobby. There was one analog thread on static where I recommended Gruv Glide and you geezers started in with so much BS- humidifiers, move to another climate, expensive gimmicks, etc, that GG would kill him and his records.  The end result? By the end of the thread, he sold his analog rig because he couldn't deal with the stress.  In a recent digital thread, you guys are recommending a newbie buy 20 year old transports.  All this does is just make newbies so stressed out that you'll drive them to MP3s.  Newbies need simple answers, commensurate with their experience level.  Buy a Rega table, screw in a Rega cartridge and play records.  They have plenty of time to turn into us.  Somehow we survived, listening to our Sansui receivers and JBL L-100s in bedrooms thick with pot smoke and spilled Boone's Farm.  And we made it.  Sometimes I'm amazed as well.  Let the young have fun while they can. Be well.  
chayro
OP you can see I like to cut up (maybe to much), but in all honesty, when a new person ask a question the quality of the question usually determines the quality of the answer.

YOU seem sincere in your effort to make them feel at home, maybe consult with the AG staff and see if you can head up a new topic on the forum to accommodate, "New Comers" "New Guest" "Newbies" "The First Stop".

Maybe a little introduction to the behavior that will be tolerated by all, what won’t be tolerated by ANY and the difference between the two.

There are no rules chiseled in stone, BUT a few.

No "NASTY" name callin’.
Be respectful.
Curve the political rants. Red, Blue, Neither or ALL. (curve NOT Stop) Its ok to fly your colors, just not in my face.
Do unto others as you would have THEM do unto you.

BUT above all, contribute to the forum in a constructive way. Enjoy yourself. Be aware sometime it takes a little intervention on the Staffs part, sometimes on the members part, and sometimes on the EVERYONES part including the "The New Person". Nothing wrong with standing up for yourself in the shadow of a BULLY.

"I’ll be your Huckleberry" against that mean ol "Johnny Ringo"

BUT that is NOT the natures of most AD regulars. Good honest folks..

WELCOME has always been the AG way..

Unfortunately there are SOME that will even take offence to being called a "Newbie". I mean after all they have been turning knobs like the rest of us their whole lives, too..

With great respect and regards to ALL, New or Not..
Four years ago an indivdual new to audio would have been given good advice on building a great system within the newbie’s budget, whether two channel or home theater.  Now there are "expert" habitual posters that makes this not so much the case.

A newbie may not have enough experience to be able to weed out bad advice that is not relevant in the context of their system.
Dekay I'm a newbie and I didn't find your post to me overly positive.  Sure I was asking for it, proposing a silly scenario  but the outright personal attacks here and the overall sense of superiority is a turn off.  This is a HOBBY about music it's not a religion or a cult to me any way. 
I'm tough and find a lot of it funny.  One of my favorites was someone posting that they didn't have any thoughts on the subject but it was important to let everyone know that.  I'm here to connect with people of like interests to learn from others.
I have found people on this forum who have opened their homes to a complete stranger.  Invited me to talk to them on the phone to discuss things.  Why can't this site be more like that and less snarky, junior high school abusive bullying?   
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I think it would be helpful if posters would specify whether they are 'newbies' at stereo equip in general, or newbies at being an "audiophile".  It's an important distinction that will greatly determine the answers you receive in response.

I cringe when I think of some of the responses I gave to folks, years ago, who I thought were real newbies, when if fact they were just 'newbies' to the audiophile thingy.

Cheers