Lay Off the Newbies!


I always try to keep my posts constructive, but there is something that regularly goes on here that I think is detrimental to our hobby - A newbie has a simple question and a bunch of neurotic geezers (of which I include myself) jump on the guy with a million rules and rituals he must follow to achieve his goal, which ends up discouraging the guy right out of hobby. There was one analog thread on static where I recommended Gruv Glide and you geezers started in with so much BS- humidifiers, move to another climate, expensive gimmicks, etc, that GG would kill him and his records.  The end result? By the end of the thread, he sold his analog rig because he couldn't deal with the stress.  In a recent digital thread, you guys are recommending a newbie buy 20 year old transports.  All this does is just make newbies so stressed out that you'll drive them to MP3s.  Newbies need simple answers, commensurate with their experience level.  Buy a Rega table, screw in a Rega cartridge and play records.  They have plenty of time to turn into us.  Somehow we survived, listening to our Sansui receivers and JBL L-100s in bedrooms thick with pot smoke and spilled Boone's Farm.  And we made it.  Sometimes I'm amazed as well.  Let the young have fun while they can. Be well.  
chayro
@hilde45:

Excellent idea-- at least you care enough to have made the effort!  

I may be mistaken, but it seems to me, when I first sarting asking for advice here, a good many years ago, there wasn't nearly as much snarkiness in evidence. 
If you want a serious answer, then ask a serious question.  People on this forum truly try to be helpful, but sometimes the OP should do some research before posting.
"If you want a serious answer, then ask a serious question. People on this forum truly try to be helpful, but sometimes the OP should do some research before posting".

Many try, yes. Others appear consistently more interested in pushing their personal agendas. And while I agree that's it's difficult to help someone when they can't seem to clearly state what it is they need help with, it doesn't hurt to keep in mind that such people may be hampered by the fact that they simply "don't know what they don't know".  I don't think it's necessarily accurate or fair to assume that someone who is ignorant is not "serious". 

You speak of "research" as though audio is a field characterized by great concensus. It seems to me far more likely that many beginner's attempts to gain some sort of reliable foundation or foothold will lead them to conclude that this hobby is rife with claims, counter-claims, arguments, contradictions, inconsistencies and unknowns.  

hilde45's suggestion that an FAQ category for beginners be created might be a way to sidestep some of the controversy and static. If such a resource were to be established, then newbies could be directed to it, straightaway, without trying anyone's patience or triggering a bunch of responses that fly way over the OP's head.
YUP.. Unless it's a stress post.. I just dropped a set of cables and blew up my system.. those post can seem a little urgent.. I did it for the first time 2-3 years ago.. I must have sounded NUTTIER than usual.. 

Mercy that was a bad day..  Right in there with "penicillin for WHAT?" days..

Regards
It seems to me far more likely that many beginner's attempts to gain some sort of reliable foundation or foothold will lead them to conclude that this hobby is rife with claims, counter-claims, arguments, contradictions, inconsistencies and unknowns.
 But that is what it is.  If you want a firm foundation in the electro/acoustics of music reproduction then reading a few books is a better source than an internet forum.