What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
This thread is much too long to read.

Is there a verdict yet?
Sorry if you confuse it with a cable thread...


I believe we have decided there’s a china teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars.
making a joke will not erase what is at stake...

This thread reminds me of one of my favourite jokes and it aligns with many discussions here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3BZs5fx3Q
And making a better joke will not solve anything for anyone...

Thanks i like this joke....


BUT ....

Reducing human perception of pitch to physical acoustic and to some technology and some limited theory about mathematical/physical frequencies to be the ONLY explanation of reality is not only wrong and simplistic , but it could be a fraud....
it is the reason why psychoacoustic is a scientific field by his own problematic....

THEN,

Nobody will put more grey matter in a brain that shut himself down....

And joke about a scientific fact and conflate it with the religious questions by derision....

What is pitch perception in human? what is his signifiance?
And why we cannot reduce it to a technological problem, even if tomorrow we will produce an A. I. with perfect pitch....

This problem could be interesting like Anton question: why someone could perceive something unexplained by standared electrical theory and measures....

And perhaps the 2 questions are related....

A tool never replace understanding and meaning except for ..... fill the blank.....

This thread is not about someone who want to sells his cables, save for idiot or "scientist of scientism" who want to put the deep questions under trivial stupid answer : like a premature blindtest....

He does not sell cables , he comes here with experiments and questions...

He does not think that his questions will be put aside from the back of their hand by pure sheer arrogance and ignorance so evident , anyone could see it....

For those who think this is a cable marketing/blindtest  thread go elsewhere...
Maybe hearing is like vision it’s an illusion.
read that : The Universal Sense How Hearing Shapes the Mind by Seth S. Horowitz,

Saying that all is illusion is completely non sense....

The presence of some "illusions" does not invalidate the meaning experience in hearing perception...




Your remark remind me of the yogi refusing to quit the road where an elephant in crisis was on course of collision with him and the cornak sitting on top of the elephant was crying to him to "quit the road and go out "....

After the collision, half dead, the yogi said to the cornack : nothing could happen to me because all is an illusion, save God... The cornak replied : the elephant is God but me crying to you to quit the road, i am also God....

what is an "illusion" ?

Is the rainbow an illusion?

"Scientism" reduction of deep problem to joke even a good one,  is not my idea of thinking...
It isn’t a joke. It’s how vision works. What you actually ’see" isn’t really the elephant but a recreation of the elephant formed by our brain. It doesn’t mean the elephant isn’t there. Our perception is the illusion not the object. It’s one reason why eyewitness accounts are so inaccurate. You know it’s more of that sciencey garbage.

Could hearing be similar? Does our brain recreate what we hear from the information it receives from the auditory nerve?