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What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?

Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
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mapman
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None of this arguing about science helps anyone in any practical way.   YEs its all gaslighting....and even that is done very poorly from even just a mere logic perspective.

I think someone needs to go out and write more papers and get it all reviewed and accepted by an authoritative body on the subject.  Not that even that will help the poor shlubs here who just want their hifis to sound good.   

If someone wants to nod their head and finds it enlightening somehow in some way, well good for them.    Count me among the unenlightened.  This place has become a garbage dump for people who can't find an audience elsewhere for their  brilliance.  Too bad!
djones51
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It’s testing and experimentation that proves or disproves theories.
 A Theory is never proved but they can be disproved. 
dletch2
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None of our sensory systems fire off a signal that says to the brain, "Incoming! 92.7dB at 5kHz!" Not at all.


You may want to learn more about our auditory system before you make posts about how it works because our auditory system does respond to specific frequency stimuli, and the response level is related to the volume, just as you claim it does not. There are more complex processes after that, not fully understood, but at a base level, what you wrote is wrong.
cleeds
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rodman99999
... no one can possibly know whether ANY given changes will make a difference, in their system and room, with their media and to their ears, without trying them for themselves ... The Naysayer Church wants you to trust their antiquated science (1800’s electrical theory) and faith-based, religious doctrine, BLINDLY ("Trust ME!" = their credo) ... IF you’re interested in improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and the audacity to trust your own senses: TRY whatever piques your interest/curiosity, FOR YOURSELF. The faith-based, Naysayer Church HATES it when THAT happens!
It’s true that the Naysayer Church is based on faith-based religious doctrine, and that would be fine by itself. However, the church’s fundamentalist evangelists preach their brand of faith by trying to cloak it with the respectability of real science, and then attempt to minister in a forum intended for hobbyists, not scientists. This assures them of endless opportunities to argue and pretend they are saving us from ourselves, or from each other, or from some mythical "snake oil" evil-doer. That's the problem here.
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mapman
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In science, you can have any theory you want. THen you collect data that you analyze statistically to determine if the data supports the theory or not. It either does or does not to various degrees. Nothing is ever "proven" 100% categorically.

So whenever you read that someone says X is true for reason Y and especially then they just talk a lot, take it with a grain of salt. It's merely an opinion at best and everybody has one.  Certainly resist the initial urge to open your wallet.

Or not. It’s a free country. One is free to believe whatever they choose and the gaslighters and con artists know that.
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