Jazz is not Blues and Blues is not Jazz.......


I have been a music fan all my life and listen to classic Jazz and female vocals mostly.  I did not see this throughout most of my life, but now some internet sites and more seem to lump Jazz and Blues into the same thought. 
B.B. King is great, but he is not Jazz.  Paul Desmond is great, but he is not Blues.   

Perhaps next Buck Owens will be considered Blues, or Lawrence Welk or let's have Buddy Holly as a Jazz artist? 

Trite, trivial and ill informed, it is all the rage in politics, why not music?




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Fundamentally, when we say "Blues" we're talking about "Mississippi", and the fact that it spread out through the South from there. The only thing that connects jazz and Blues is "ethnicity".

Culturally the musicians are miles apart; Miles Davis never picked cotton, while most "Blues musicians" have mentioned it in their songs. Albert keeps it real;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyBZnLuNJ7k&list=RDpyBZnLuNJ7k&start_radio=1


Unfortunately, blues musicians are closer to their original heritage; "descendants of slaves" who were forbidden to learn how to read or write.


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Py37G9qsfY


It is what it is.


     



It's all folk music.  I ain't never heard a horse sing a song."
A famous jazz man said that.
Sorry, again with respect, some of you guys are painting with way too broad a brush; or, should I say narrow? Think of it this way:

If “the Blues and Jazz are two completely different genres”, how does one then describe how different the Blues (or Jazz) is compared to, say, European Classical? That they are MORE completely different? THOSE are two completely (!) different genres with entirely different histories, characteristics and aesthetics. The Blues and Jazz are far from “completely” different. The truth is that the Blues is an essential ingredient of Jazz and they share much more than just ethnicity. If you understand the history of each it becomes obvious. To borrow a line used often by someone I know (and you know who you are) “No Blues, no Jazz”.

I’ve always liked food analogies when discussing music. The Blues is to Jazz what Marinara sauce is to Pizza. Way different, right? However, obviously coming from the same place and you can’t have one without the other. Try incorporating tomato sauce in Japanese cuisine; won’t work.  THAT’S completely different. Completely different aesthetics.

Not sure what anyone here means when they say the two get “clumped together“. Is it that Blues tunes sometimes get described as being Jazz; or vice versa? Is it that, for some, discussing one leads to discussing the other; or vice versa? Why not? They are father and child.
Going back to the dawn of recorded jazz and blues in the 20’s there was tremendous cross-fertilization between the genres. They are just sides of a coin, so to speak. 
If one delves into the free jazz genre, the influence of blues is great.  Check out any of Albert Ayler’s recordings to confirm.
Back in the 60’s, it was fashionable to include a slow blues on your average hip jazz album- hundreds of classic Blue Notes followed this formula.